Could you have avoided this?

[Madness]

I would have missed both trucks and hit the only cow within a 150km radius.

Fixed that for you James.

[chasio]

An instant "oh fuck, look at this lot" reaction.

Exactly, I'd be dropping a cog, covering the brake (or gently applying it) doing the SMIDSY identification & avoidance manoeuvre and shutting the hell up so I could concentrate. I voted "probably" as I hope I'd have managed to do it but as others have said, if my mindset was wrong I'd probably have ended up on the deck. There but for my own powers of concentration and control (the grace of God is not the real issue) go I.

[Lozza2442]

I would have missed both trucks and hit a cow.

The cow had it comin.

[Madness]

I'd be doing the SMIDSY identification & avoidance manoeuvre.

I'd have hit high beam instead.

[willytheekid]

Yak yak yak yak yak yak yak BAMMO!

Turn the volume WAY up....listen to the revs!...guy dosn't slow down that much (to busy listening to his own voice to focus 100%?...dunno)

Two heavy arsed trucks at one intersection, and both turning!....damn straight "I" would slow the hell down and ENSURE they can see me(flick the highbeem a few times)...But in saying that...I honestly don't know if I could have avoided that one...I would bloody HOPE I could (cos that looked friggin painful!)....but that truck didn't leave much time for reaction at all

I feel for the poor bugger, after all...he didn't do anything wrong (legally), that truckie was clearly negligent! (And came damn close to killing someone!)
...but at the end of the day...the motorcyclist is the only one left lying on the road broken...trucks etc tend to do that to ya.(and cars, and vans, and...), hence we can only ever "try our best" to avoid these sort of accidents...but they do sadly happen
Im just glad glad the guy is still with us...it could have been ALOT worse

Ride safe Kbers

[Drew]

See doesn't that feel better? just a little more now.....

Ok, but just this once.

I'm going through advanced rider training, based off the UK Police Rider training. One of the hardest parts is being able to talk your way through your riding, what you are observing etc. It sounds easy but far harder in practise.

I could not hold any dialogue about something else while going through that scenario other than dialogue related to my observations of the road and hazards. The fact he was means he was not concentrating on the situation at hand. I'm not trying to bash him at all, but it's an excellent learning scenario for riders. Unfortunately, he's had to go through the pain of that, but hopefully for the benefit of others.

Do you talk to passengers when you're driving a car? Same thing isn't it? He wasn't blithering on about anything else once the truck started moving, so what you're saying about dialogue is moot.

The guy was pootling along, and felt perfectly safe giving his little political speal or whatever it was. That he was barely moving when he hit the truck, goes to show he very nearly avoided the crash, and if he'd had more wits about him would have easily made it round the left hand turn if he'd thought about it.

The way he got his jacket and helmet off, but wouldn't get up, leads me to think of soccer players taking a fall for a penalty more than injuries.

The truck driver is totally to blame for the incident, and the biker was doing nothing wrong to contribute.

[Katman]

and the biker was doing nothing wrong to contribute.

He may have been doing nothing legally wrong Drew but he certainly still contributed.

[BoristheBiter]

He may have been doing nothing legally wrong Drew but he certainly still contributed.

yeah he was riding on the road, if he wanted to avoid it he should have walked.
Or at least have a dirt bike, then he can use the green belts, no chance of trucks but watch out for the horse's, walkers, cycleist's.
Fuck that's just as bad as on the road he should have just stayed in bed.

[DEATH_INC.]

I'd have missed them as I would have been going much faster and shot through the gap before the black truck had time to get into my lane.....

[Drew]

He may have been doing nothing legally wrong Drew but he certainly still contributed.

We need predictable people around us, gives everyone a sense of security.

What did he do to contribute? He failed to just hook left for sure, but that's not a contribution.

[Drew]

I'd have missed them as I would have been going much faster and shot through the gap before the black truck had time to get into my lane.....

I'd have hoisted a mono, stood up, and threaded the gap whilst giving the finger.

Each to their own though.

[Gremlin]

Do you talk to passengers when you're driving a car? Same thing isn't it? He wasn't blithering on about anything else once the truck started moving, so what you're saying about dialogue is moot.

Don't drive actually... don't have a car, spend all my time on bikes. And yes, a passenger (or talking to one) can definitely be distracting, so no, it's not moot. A driver has to manage those distractions while staying attentive.

[Drew]

Don't drive actually... don't have a car, spend all my time on bikes. And yes, a passenger (or talking to one) can definitely be distracting, so no, it's not moot. A driver has to manage those distractions while staying attentive.

Alright then if you must be pedantic. Do you talk to drivers when you are in a car?

The fact that he was blithering has nothing to do with anything at all. I talk to myself when I race, and I sing when riding on the road. I don't crash into unexpected things.

[Lozza2442]

I don't crash into unexpected things.

Only expected things?

[Maha]

Don't drive actually... don't have a car, spend all my time on bikes. And yes, a passenger (or talking to one) can definitely be distracting, so no, it's not moot. A driver has to manage those distractions while staying attentive.

I just tell Anne to shut up ...the non attentive side of me just ''ah ha's'' every 5-6 seconds while concertrating on the road ahead...
All accidents are avoidable, thats why they are called accidents....the reason they happen on the other hand, is quite clear...someone fucked up.
If they weren't called accidents, they would be called ''on purposes'' and criminal charges could be attributed. (charges are attributed with some accidents)

*non voter.