Ninja 300R

[Glowerss]

Ha!! IF Hondas are reasonably priced??? Your serious? If kwakas were so badly priced there wouldn't be a waiting list!!

Always people with more money then sense. Doesn't make 10k for a learner bike, and over double what they cost in the states, a reasonably priced bike

[cameron.new]

Shame they're horrendously overpriced for what they are. Nearly $10,000 brand new is ludicrous. You can buy a brand new 650ninja for that amount.

If Hondas new 500s are priced reasonably, I'd expect them to outsell the kwackas pretty heavily.

A brand new Ninja 650R is actually $14,400 plus ORC. And not LAMS approved.

If you want a new Learners bike and want to pay as little as possible, buy the carbed Ninja 250R on special.

[nzspokes]

A brand new Ninja 650R is actually $14,400 plus ORC. And not LAMS approved.

If you want a new Learners bike and want to pay as little as possible, buy the carbed Ninja 250R on special.

Or just go buy a 250 Hornet which is twice the bike for 3 to 4k.

You would have to have rocks in your head to buy a brand new learners bike.

[cameron.new]

The CB900F will most likely be my next bike but I reckon the hornets are very plain looking. Everyone has their reasons for buying new. If your statement was correct, would anyone be selling new bikes?

Dealers have bugger all decent used bikes these days and it's a pain in the ass to go see a bike if you live in Hamilton. Gave up after the second trip to Auckland. I personally like the fact that I have a dealer to return to, a warranty, and a hot looking bike

[Glowerss]

A brand new Ninja 650R is actually $14,400 plus ORC. And not LAMS approved.

If you want a new Learners bike and want to pay as little as possible, buy the carbed Ninja 250R on special.

You don't know how to shop apparently.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-284527147.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-532676288.htm

Obviously they're not LAMS approved. But buying a 300 for 800$ less then the full monty just to ride 18months is insane.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-532071665.htm Is LAMS approved and at nearly half the price you could repair the damn thing half a dozen times before costing you as much as a ninja 300 (although it's especially unlikely as they've been making em since like bloody 1983). And you won't lose bugger all in resale value as they're pretty coveted LAMS bikes.

I'm going with spokes on this one. They could be the best LAMS bike in the world, but buying a brand new LAMS bike is nuts unless you're one of the lucky few in the world to be rolling in dosh and just looking for an excuse to spend it. Or you plan on keeping it 4 or 5 years I suppose.

[ducatilover]

If your statement was correct, would anyone be selling new bikes?

He is correct, you're just a magpie bro.

[nzspokes]

The CB900F will most likely be my next bike but I reckon the hornets are very plain looking. Everyone has their reasons for buying new. If your statement was correct, would anyone be selling new bikes?

Dealers have bugger all decent used bikes these days and it's a pain in the ass to go see a bike if you live in Hamilton. Gave up after the second trip to Auckland. I personally like the fact that I have a dealer to return to, a warranty, and a hot looking bike

Hornet will be more reliable, ride better, be faster and depreciate less.

[Slicksta]

Hornet will be more reliable, ride better, be faster and depreciate less.

Having ridden both perhaps I could answer those assumptions for you.

"Hornet will be more reliable"
Time will tell that is an assumption based on not much. Granted the Hornet/CBR 250s are known to be fairly solid but the EX/Ninja 250s are not known to break down constantly.

"Ride better"
Don't know where you got that from. The ninja 300 is a bunch of fun to ride I jumped on one recently just after riding a er6n and it put a smile on my face throwing it into corners it feels very stable light and manoeuvrable not saying again that the hornet falls down here just saying "rides better" is rather a blanket statement. Personally I preferred the riding characteristics of the ninja 300 as it has more torque.

"be faster"
Mate there is so little difference here that you wont notice the ninja 300 is rated at 29kw and the hornet is rated the same. Torque is listed on the hornet as 24 nm and the Ninja 300 is 27 nm. Dry weight is listed on the hornet as 151kgs and the Ninja 300 is 152kgs (eat a few less pies) Top speed on the Ninja 300 is supposed to be around 186Kph and the Hornet is 180Kph.

"depreciate less"
Here I will disagree. There is now little reason to own an old linline 4 250 with the lams laws. Perhaps the only reason a Hornet would depreciate less is because you buy it 2nd hand and 2nd hand goods are more likely to depreciate less than new ones.

Having ridden the Ninja 300 I like it so much I ordered one and I do not class myself as a N00b rider.
(altho I may cancel my order as Hamilton Motorcycle Centre do not think to let a customer know of a month delay on there order had to call and find out)

[nzspokes]

Having ridden both perhaps I could answer those assumptions for you.

"Hornet will be more reliable"
Time will tell that is an assumption based on not much. Granted the Hornet/CBR 250s are known to be fairly solid but the EX/Ninja 250s are not known to break down constantly.

"Ride better"
Don't know where you got that from. The ninja 300 is a bunch of fun to ride I jumped on one recently just after riding a er6n and it put a smile on my face throwing it into corners it feels very stable light and manoeuvrable not saying again that the hornet falls down here just saying "rides better" is rather a blanket statement. Personally I preferred the riding characteristics of the ninja 300 as it has more torque.

"be faster"
Mate there is so little difference here that you wont notice the ninja 300 is rated at 29kw and the hornet is rated the same. Torque is listed on the hornet as 24 nm and the Ninja 300 is 27 nm. Dry weight is listed on the hornet as 151kgs and the Ninja 300 is 152kgs (eat a few less pies) Top speed on the Ninja 300 is supposed to be around 186Kph and the Hornet is 180Kph.

"depreciate less"
Here I will disagree. There is now little reason to own an old linline 4 250 with the lams laws. Perhaps the only reason a Hornet would depreciate less is because you buy it 2nd hand and 2nd hand goods are more likely to depreciate less than new ones.

Having ridden the Ninja 300 I like it so much I ordered one and I do not class myself as a N00b rider.
(altho I may cancel my order as Hamilton Motorcycle Centre do not think to let a customer know of a month delay on there order had to call and find out)

Ridden a 250 Hornet? Best you do.

[Slicksta]

Having ridden both perhaps I could answer those assumptions for you /snip

Ridden a 250 Hornet? Best you do.

Yes I have as I said.

In fact the Hornet 250 didn't tempt me at but the a 2008 hornet 600 on the other hand....

[sil3nt]

Having ridden both perhaps I could answer those assumptions for you.

"Hornet will be more reliable"
Time will tell that is an assumption based on not much. Granted the Hornet/CBR 250s are known to be fairly solid but the EX/Ninja 250s are not known to break down constantly.

"Ride better"
Don't know where you got that from. The ninja 300 is a bunch of fun to ride I jumped on one recently just after riding a er6n and it put a smile on my face throwing it into corners it feels very stable light and manoeuvrable not saying again that the hornet falls down here just saying "rides better" is rather a blanket statement. Personally I preferred the riding characteristics of the ninja 300 as it has more torque.

"be faster"
Mate there is so little difference here that you wont notice the ninja 300 is rated at 29kw and the hornet is rated the same. Torque is listed on the hornet as 24 nm and the Ninja 300 is 27 nm. Dry weight is listed on the hornet as 151kgs and the Ninja 300 is 152kgs (eat a few less pies) Top speed on the Ninja 300 is supposed to be around 186Kph and the Hornet is 180Kph.

"depreciate less"
Here I will disagree. There is now little reason to own an old linline 4 250 with the lams laws. Perhaps the only reason a Hornet would depreciate less is because you buy it 2nd hand and 2nd hand goods are more likely to depreciate less than new ones.

Having ridden the Ninja 300 I like it so much I ordered one and I do not class myself as a N00b rider.
(altho I may cancel my order as Hamilton Motorcycle Centre do not think to let a customer know of a month delay on there order had to call and find out)

Good post. Would be surprised if those knocking it have even seen it in the flesh let alone ridden it.

The service at Hamilton Motorcycle Centre is shit. I do my best to avoid them now. Not actually liking my chances of a test ride when they get the demo fleet next week.

[nzspokes]

Good post. Would be surprised if those knocking it have even seen it in the flesh let alone ridden it.

I have no interest in seeing one. And dont want to ride one. Zx12 would be a different story.

[sil3nt]

I have no interest in seeing one. And dont want to ride one. Zx12 would be a different story.

How can you say a hornet will be more reliable, faster, better handling when you haven't even ridden the ninja?

Sorry maybe you were just trolling

Would prefer the 10 over the 12 I think. 12 seems a bit of a monster.

[ducatilover]

Soooooooooo

Anyone interested in letting me have a ride on the EX300??

The Hornet will be more reliable, I bet a box on it. I have yet to see an EX/ZZR/GPZ/GPZ pass 100k on an unopened motor. I've seen several CBR/CB250s do it.

Ride better. I'll be the judge of that, I've had a hoon on a shit load of little Hornets and, for what they are, they ride extremely well (best riding small bike IMO)

Depreciate: Hornet is still fairly modern and a very proven bike, it is good, not an old heap in a skirt.

I am more than happy to take a 300R for a tootle and write what I think, if it trumps the Hornet, I'll be a happy fellow.



One would be fair to assume the 300R rides like an improved 250R (which is a budget heap), if not, I'll sing its praises all day long.


So yeah, gizz a go and I'll be happy to do a write up

[cameron.new]

You don't know how to shop apparently.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-284527147.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-532676288.htm

Obviously they're not LAMS approved. But buying a 300 for 800$ less then the full monty just to ride 18months is insane.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-532071665.htm Is LAMS approved and at nearly half the price you could repair the damn thing half a dozen times before costing you as much as a ninja 300 (although it's especially unlikely as they've been making em since like bloody 1983). And you won't lose bugger all in resale value as they're pretty coveted LAMS bikes.

I'm going with spokes on this one. They could be the best LAMS bike in the world, but buying a brand new LAMS bike is nuts unless you're one of the lucky few in the world to be rolling in dosh and just looking for an excuse to spend it. Or you plan on keeping it 4 or 5 years I suppose.

Being a Learner licenced rider, the er6n is out of the question. I have in-fact ridden one before and apart from the extra power, I still prefer the Ninja 300 in every other way. I am not a biased idiot trying to convince you guys why I have spent 10K on the Ninja, I simply found a bike that suits me well and have no regrets.

He is correct, you're just a magpie bro.

Who is correct and who is the magpie?

Hornet will be more reliable, ride better, be faster and depreciate less.

Depreciate less, yes! More reliable, ride better and be faster, questionable.

Having ridden both perhaps I could answer those assumptions for you.

"Hornet will be more reliable"
Time will tell that is an assumption based on not much. Granted the Hornet/CBR 250s are known to be fairly solid but the EX/Ninja 250s are not known to break down constantly.

"Ride better"
Don't know where you got that from. The ninja 300 is a bunch of fun to ride I jumped on one recently just after riding a er6n and it put a smile on my face throwing it into corners it feels very stable light and manoeuvrable not saying again that the hornet falls down here just saying "rides better" is rather a blanket statement. Personally I preferred the riding characteristics of the ninja 300 as it has more torque.

"be faster"
Mate there is so little difference here that you wont notice the ninja 300 is rated at 29kw and the hornet is rated the same. Torque is listed on the hornet as 24 nm and the Ninja 300 is 27 nm. Dry weight is listed on the hornet as 151kgs and the Ninja 300 is 152kgs (eat a few less pies) Top speed on the Ninja 300 is supposed to be around 186Kph and the Hornet is 180Kph.

"depreciate less"
Here I will disagree. There is now little reason to own an old linline 4 250 with the lams laws. Perhaps the only reason a Hornet would depreciate less is because you buy it 2nd hand and 2nd hand goods are more likely to depreciate less than new ones.

Having ridden the Ninja 300 I like it so much I ordered one and I do not class myself as a N00b rider.
(altho I may cancel my order as Hamilton Motorcycle Centre do not think to let a customer know of a month delay on there order had to call and find out)

Thanks Slicksta! At least someone is on my side! I can't believe how much people here love bashing on the new members/riders. I thought this forum was all about bringing bikers together and sharing tips, experiences and opinions. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. If you dislike the Ninja 300, fine by me. I'm not going to go lock myself in my room and go have a cry about it. I haven't been on half the bikes you guys may have ridden but even if I absolutely despise a bike that one of you may have, that's my own problem to worry about. You just go enjoy it anyway and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I'm all for this forum and love being a 2 wheel rider but if you are out to contest and bash against me just because my taste may differ from yourself or the majority, go to the welcome section and bash on someone else!

I have no interest in seeing one. And dont want to ride one. Zx12 would be a different story.

Sweet as. I have no interest in riding a ZX-12r but that's just me. If you are into them, bloody good on you..


Now I've said my bit! Who wants to go next?