Rioting Muslims in Aussie

[300weatherby]

Was Mel perhaps correct in his drunken assertions?
What the Israelis are doing to Palestine and their warmongering against Iran make Islamist bad behaviour pale in comparison.
The biggest threat to world peace is definitely The United States of America.
It doesn't matter who becomes President. It is not them that wield the Power.
Those that do are supporters of the above poster.
Hilary Clinton came out with this little gem. If Iran attacks Israel we will wipe them off the face of the earth.
Time to rid ourselves of the warmongers. Give peace a chance.
There has only been one four year period in their entire history when they haven't attacked some foreign country. Almost exclusively brown people.
Hilary came out with another pearl recently. She said the protesters outside US embassies should go home.
I think it is the US that should go home.
'Yankee go home' has a long and proud history. Time to trot it out worldwide.
If they had an enviable society then they might have some place trying to advance their systems and social mores. But when their society is so fucked up then they have no business being anywhere else. They need to address their own problems first.
Becoming a democracy would be a start. Putting the power into the hands of moral people should be a goal. Won't ever happen there I'm picking.

The New World Order promoted by George Bush snr. has come to pass. Who wields the power?
How to isolate our country from their domination? That is a major hurdle. With John Key as PM we are clearly on a path at odds with that ideal.

US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta coming here 'as part of a US bid to shift towards the region'.
Previous US expansionism was the cause of the 'War in the Pacific' according to some Japamese historians.
Hope this new US expansionism is not the cause of another conflict in our backyard.

Israel is trapped on all sides by countries and ideoligy that would wipe them from the planet man woman and child if they could - Israel must remain aggressive and proactive at all times, being passive and non confrontational is to show weakness to their enemies.

The ONLY reason Israel still exists is all of the surrounding countries understand clearly that the first one to jump them will get totally cleaned out. - Imagine being down a dark alley and you have a gun, but only one bullet, and five bad guys want to jump you, they know you have only one bullet and none of them wants to be first, but they all want to get you and you are never gonna get out of that alley, ever. Over the top aggression is their ONLY defence


As for the bad bad bad USA? Pay attention to China, sit back and take a long slow look at what has been happening over a very long period of modern history. Start learning manadrin cause soon enough it may be necessary.

[Nova.]

Thank fuck I'm an atheist.
Look at all the bullshit religion causes.

[Woodman]

Have any of these rioters actually seen allah/mahumad/whoever? heard him speak? any evidence at all that he is nothing but some crap planted in their brains by overbearing cocks who have also had the same crap planted in their brains?

If they really stopped to think about it surely they would slink away from the riots just a little bit embarrassed.

[Madness]

Whilst it's very poorly made, I can still see why it's fucked them off.

[sugilite:Me]

Humans - There are good ones and bad ones. Both types come in ALL flavours, colour and creeds.

Are religious wars really about which side has the bestest imaginary friend? Or rather to win the ultimate rights to domination over humanity?

[scissorhands]

Atheists should do a march and protest. Tell everyone on all sides what a bunch of fucktards they are all behaving like.

Queen St Friday night is full of uber fundamentalist Christians from Mount Roskill, girls with long hair and long skirts, some goons and some young tards and a raving preacher with a bible above his head...

hyper aggressively filling youngsters with psychological and moral guilt, whilst they have a fun night out with their friends... makes the Haris look look very tame

[Woodman]

Whilst it's very poorly made, I can still see why it's fucked them off.

Is that what all the fuss is about?

[Madness]

Is that what all the fuss is about?

Apparently.

[PrincessBandit]

Christians have a long (and even recent) history of reacting to offensive provocation. It wasn't that long ago that the "Virgin in a Condom" exhibit in New Zealand resulted in threats against both the artist and the gallery.

True, but I don't recall any death threats or demands for beheadings.

[duckonin]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austral...rs-tear-gassed

Well hell. Here in a civilised evolved society we respect and at times endure free speech. If those who embrace the vile and intolorant dogma that is Islam take umbrage at our way of life then you can pack your sorry shit up and piss off back to the shithole whence you came. Yes i'm happy to insult Islam. Behead me if you dare. I'd be more than happy to fill you full of hot lead poisoning.

100%

[mashman]

Israel is trapped on all sides by countries and ideoligy that would wipe them from the planet man woman and child if they could - Israel must remain aggressive and proactive at all times, being passive and non confrontational is to show weakness to their enemies.

The ONLY reason Israel still exists is all of the surrounding countries understand clearly that the first one to jump them will get totally cleaned out. - Imagine being down a dark alley and you have a gun, but only one bullet, and five bad guys want to jump you, they know you have only one bullet and none of them wants to be first, but they all want to get you and you are never gonna get out of that alley, ever. Over the top aggression is their ONLY defence

As for the bad bad bad USA? Pay attention to China, sit back and take a long slow look at what has been happening over a very long period of modern history. Start learning manadrin cause soon enough it may be necessary.

I remember reading a few storied several months ago in regards to how the Israeli and Iranian people "felt" towards each other. Meh, they're people was the crux. Tis a small bunch of small minded powerful individuals seeking to keep the tension alive, praying (pun intended) on the fear of other small minded powerful individuals in order to keep them from being peaceful. I dare say the majority of people in any of the surrounding country's wouldn't give a toss if there were no "war", religiously based or other... but it's good to know that the Americans (the powerful small minded ones) will happily clear out your neighbours, coz they're terrorists, to protect you.

As for aggression in the name of defence, peace doesn't generate money and the small minded power hungry don't care who dies to protect that ideology.

Meanwhile on topic. I can understand why these things happen. Tis a bit like insulting someone's mum... cept they're protecting the "virtue" of their father for a change. Some will react, some won't.

[george formby]

I wonder how many of the rioting medievalists have seen the movie? Mob mentality more like, they do like to have a good shout.

[Virago]

True, but I don't recall any death threats or demands for beheadings.

Only a couple of weeks ago many New Zealanders were making threats of rape and death against a Canadian woman who simply expressed her opinion about a Kiwi Soldier.

I'm certainly not condoning any violent response to offensive provocation. But the "right of free speech" does not convey the right to antagonise, offend, and incite hatred.

The film in question was made solely to offend and provoke. It is a nasty little piece of trash - they even dubbed anti-islamic voice-overs for the innocent actors who thought they were participating in something else entirely.

They got the response they were hoping for. But on whose hands is the blood?

[Hinny]

Israel is trapped on all sides by countries and ideoligy that would wipe them from the planet man woman and child if they could - Israel must remain aggressive and proactive at all times, being passive and non confrontational is to show weakness to their enemies.

The ONLY reason Israel still exists is all of the surrounding countries understand clearly that the first one to jump them will get totally cleaned out. - Imagine being down a dark alley and you have a gun, but only one bullet, and five bad guys want to jump you, they know you have only one bullet and none of them wants to be first, but they all want to get you and you are never gonna get out of that alley, ever. Over the top aggression is their ONLY defence


As for the bad bad bad USA? Pay attention to China, sit back and take a long slow look at what has been happening over a very long period of modern history. Start learning manadrin cause soon enough it may be necessary.

Fairly naive assessment in my opinion. Gobbledegook spewed out by Netanyahu and his mates.
Parroted by the US.
The likes of Hilary Clinton, who is so out of touch with her position that she believes Israel is an ally of the US.
She has stated as much on many occassions.
Israel is not an ally.
To be so would invite direction from the US. As a previous PM, (typical former war criminal who's name escapes me -Oh!-Perez ), stated "we will take their money and we will take their arms but we will not take their advice." I believe that is still the current situation with the encumbant bad man.
Mitt Romney is also ignorant of the exact relationship between the US and Israel. aside no doubt from the fact that he has met with the Bilderberg group and been told what the position will be. I wonder if he got shown the film shot from the grassy knoll.
Here is what he is reported as saying:
Mitt Romney at the VFW Conference (July 24, 2012): ”President Obama is fond of lecturing Israel’s leaders. He was even caught by a microphone deriding them. He has undermined their position, which was tough enough as it was. And even at the United Nations, to the enthusiastic applause of Israel’s enemies, he spoke as if our closest ally in the Middle East was the problem. The people of Israel deserve better than what they have received from the leader of the free world. And the chorus of accusations, threats, and insults at the United Nations should never again include the voice of the President of the United States.”

Plonker! US taxpayers did stump up more than $27,000 in aid for every man, woman and child in Israel.
They got more in aid than the rest of the world combined.
Mutt seems to think they deserve more.

Jimmy Carter's book 'Palestine - Peace not apartheid' is a worthy read.
If you have an open mind it will, IMHO, change your opinion of the situation.

I agree with your second point: Learning Mandarin is recommended by many who see the growth of the Chinese market and their increasing presence on the world stage as the natural market for us to chase. Many predict the fall of the US from the dominant position they have assumed just as dominant empires have been usurped in the past. Current debt 135% of GDP. In NZ with debt 30% of GDP we have a Govt. telling us debt levels are the driving force behind asset sales.
Maybe it is time for Kiwis to become a bit more politically active and stand up for their rights and beliefs in the manner that others are in foreign lands. Time for a revolution? Never happen here. Kiwis are too complacent....and cultured.
Others may describe them as possessed of great common sense and good taste. Meaning thereby, without originality or moral courage. Homage to G.B. Shaw.

[PrincessBandit]

Only a couple of weeks ago many New Zealanders were making threats of rape and death against a Canadian woman who simply expressed her opinion about a Kiwi Soldier.

I'm certainly not condoning any violent response to offensive provocation. But the "right of free speech" does not convey the right to antagonise, offend, and incite hatred.

The film in question was made solely to offend and provoke. It is a nasty little piece of trash - they even dubbed anti-islamic voice-overs for the innocent actors who thought they were participating in something else entirely.

They got the response they were hoping for. But on whose hands is the blood?

Were those New Zealanders making the threats Christian? Perhaps they were, probably they weren't. Certainly it's a sad fact that there is a percentage of mankind with a penchant for hatred and violence and offensiveness. Religion is so easily a vehicle for abusive leadership, leading to a ready made band wagon for the dyed-in-the-wool rentamob thugs.
My point, along with most here, is speaking out against those who attack completely innocent bystanders and people who have nothing to do with this film. Your point about the voice-over, if correct, only serves to highlight the lack of morals and credibility of the film makers, not the innocent participants or anyone else who had absolutely nothing to do with it.
My suspicion is that even if there was world-wide condemnation by a united humanity over this film (a drop in the ocean of mankind's existence, mind you) there would still be those who will relish the opportunity to use it as a vehicle of hatred against fellow human beings. Simply because it is in their nature to do so.