Now something like a new RC30 - that'd be a good story

[actungbaby]

The CB175t made more horses than either of the other two. The 125 and 200 are exactly the same in output. I shit you not!

They said these where great bikes i rode a loaner seemed vibrate alot put me of theres one on trademe

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-517401467.htm

opps its a 125 but its cheap as chips

[Drew]

They said these where great bikes i rode a loaner seemed vibrate alot put me of theres one on trademe

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-517401467.htm

opps its a 125 but its cheap as chips

You might be surprised at what that sells for at the end. If a couple bucket racers get it in their head they want it, and start out bidding each other.

I'd buy it if it was only gonna be $100

[Swoop]

After the disappointment with the VFR1200, I await further progress.

Once the engineers have done their thing and then the OSH man fucks things up with emission controls, etc, the "asthetic" designer comes along and "styles" the outside.

Dear Mr Honda.
Don't do to this bike what you did to the 1200.

[Drew]

Lots of big long posts. I glean from one that no one except Yamaha are making a good inline motor that isn't savage.

Whoever wrote that needs to try riding the pile of shit back to back, with any other manufacturers inline of the same year.

[tigertim20]

Are you aware that set up is important?If you can't make a k4 turn in, you're doing it wrong!

are you aware that not reading a post properly before replying makes you look stupid?

what I said was

it just doesnt seem any more impressive than the R1. It doesnt turn in nearly as well either,

I didnt say the K4 is awful I said it doesnt turn in as well as my R1, which is older.
I would say that you are welcome to come around and try them back to back and see for yourself that my comment is accurate, however seeing as your reputation for crashing things is even worse than mine, It would seem foolish to make such an offer.

[Drew]

are you aware that not reading a post properly before replying makes you look stupid?

what I said was


I didnt say the K4 is awful I said it doesnt turn in as well as my R1, which is older.
I would say that you are welcome to come around and try them back to back and see for yourself that my comment is accurate, however seeing as your reputation for crashing things is even worse than mine, It would seem foolish to make such an offer.

You say the R1 turns in better. Cool, the geometry is close for the way you ride, I still maintain you're doing it wrong on the K4.

K4 doesn't turn in as well, mmmkay, lets see if it's on the same tyres around the same state of wear. I'll assume they are in spite of the likelyhood. So lets drop the front end a bit, to sharpen it up.

These things are not just meant to look like race bikes, they are pretty fuckin trick pieces of kit. Anything capable of doing amazing things on a race track, needs to be tuned to the operator.

I fully understand you not wanting me to ride it, I hide my own keys from me ya know. Lucky I'm stupid, so I can't find them aye.

[Ocean1]

Now - how about we think what THAT might look like? V5 two stroke? Hybrid powered? Hydrogen powered? Steam?

I once heard the term “the Buell mistake”, in reference to new models with so many radical features the market wouldn’t accept them, regardless of performance. It applies to other markets too, as I’m sure you know. Fashion drives all, we say we want cutting edge technology, but what sells is anything our mates approve of.

to be fair, bmw have been able to watch the big four for years, pick the bits that worked from those that didnt, and build a brand new engine from scratch, unlike the big four who had to try something and make constant small adjustments an existing platform in order to stay within R&D budgets - constant major changes to the platform are simply not viable, B<W started from scratch.

Kaizen. It’s what the Japanese do, they invented it and they still do it better than anyone. The goal isn't usually excellence in applied technology, though, it's a shape the market game. Except Honda. Sometimes.

[AllanB]

GSX1300R & GSX1400 for example.

Yeah, but I reckon they could do better ......

[imdying]

Well, I've registered my interest at least... I've no idea if it'll be in my price range, but you gotta be in to win.

It better come in Repsol colours though.

[Drew]

It better come in Repsol colours though.

Up until now, I had put no stock in the rumor that you liked cock...

[tigertim20]

You say the R1 turns in better. Cool, the geometry is close for the way you ride, I still maintain you're doing it wrong on the K4.

K4 doesn't turn in as well, mmmkay, lets see if it's on the same tyres around the same state of wear. I'll assume they are in spite of the likelyhood. So lets drop the front end a bit, to sharpen it up.

These things are not just meant to look like race bikes, they are pretty fuckin trick pieces of kit. Anything capable of doing amazing things on a race track, needs to be tuned to the operator.

I fully understand you not wanting me to ride it, I hide my own keys from me ya know. Lucky I'm stupid, so I can't find them aye.

and I will still maintain that you're wrong!!

guess we have to agree to disagree!. The thing I do find really impressive about the K4 compared to the R1, the K4 brakes are way better, even though the R1 brakes have had money spent on them, and the K4's are still stock

[Drew]

and I will still maintain that you're wrong!!

guess we have to agree to disagree!. The thing I do find really impressive about the K4 compared to the R1, the K4 brakes are way better, even though the R1 brakes have had money spent on them, and the K4's are still stock

Was meant to be a huge improvement from the K1/2, but I couldn't fault the earlier bikes picks to begin with. More feel maybe, haven't spent any time on the K4 to speak of though.

Seriously though, drop the triple clamps 5mm down the forks. It will transform the way the bike turns.

[imdying]

Up until now, I had put no stock in the rumor that you liked cock...

Fuck bro I gobble that shit like a pro....



New suit, new tyres, sun shine... was a good day!

[codgyoleracer]

Was meant to be a huge improvement from the K1/2, but I couldn't fault the earlier bikes picks to begin with. More feel maybe, haven't spent any time on the K4 to speak of though.

Seriously though, drop the triple clamps 5mm down the forks. It will transform the way the bike turns.

Other than the fact that the K4 feels like your sitting on a beer barrel, it beats the R1 in every respect IMO.

Honda will need to do their homework to bring a V4 to the market that has the performance as well as a price that allows it to sell in a tough market. Yamahas big bang unit is an awesome litre class road bike - and a not so old 2nd hand one can be picked up cheap as chips.

[Drew]

Other than the fact that the K4 feels like your sitting on a beer barrel, it beats the R1 in every respect IMO.

Honda will need to do their homework to bring a V4 to the market that has the performance as well as a price that allows it to sell in a tough market. Yamahas big bang unit is an awesome litre class road bike - and a not so old 2nd hand one can be picked up cheap as chips.

This thread perfectly devides those of us who are all about function, and those who love form.

I and others talk as though the bike should be a road going, mass produced sports bike.

There are those who think it should be a limited run of collectables.

Problem with collectables, their all shit. The NR750 gives me wood, but it's fuckin useless as a rider. The Desmocidici is rubbish, and ugly.

The crossplane (not big bang Glen, the cylinders all fire seperately, instead of two at a time), was a massive change in direction, to be continued on for some time. So it sold big.