Convince me...

[Scuba_Steve]

Just look at their Mac Pro prices. Try upgrading the HDD or RAM. It comes out to about 3X normal retail price. Why?

And what are you comparing it against??? Go check HP or Dell they'll come out similar costs.

WTF kind of man are you (and everyone else that's responded)? Querying the technical merits of a pressie for the missus where all she wants is something that looks pretty and that she can accessorise the hell out of. See, that's the reason for the confusion... wondering what features she'll like so that when she opens it you can say, on I bought it because it's got x, y and z (none of which she'll understand) instead of, and look at the accessory list for it. Job done. You're welcome

As mentioned at the beginning I'm not interested in specs, or what I can make it do by rooting/jailbreaking it. I'm interested in user experience, reliability, functionality, etc the stuff that will matter.

Which brings another point I guess I should inquire about too, how well does Android talk to OS X???

[mashman]

As mentioned at the beginning I'm not interested in specs, or what I can make it do by rooting/jailbreaking it. I'm interested in user experience, reliability, functionality, etc the stuff that will matter.

Which brings another point I guess I should inquire about too, how well does Android talk to OS X???

Yes you did. You're still over thinking it . Would a certain recent court case give you the answer to your query? In that one is functionally so similar to the other that they won their case.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yes you did. You're still over thinking it . Would a certain recent court case give you the answer to your query? In that one is functionally so similar to the other that they won their case.

So you're saying go with Apple cause the alternatives just a "quality clone"?

[mashman]

So you're saying go with Apple cause the alternatives just a "quality clone"?

it could be that they've ironed out the kinks and Apple know it. My 2c, it matters not a feckin jot. They're both "fast", they both serve apps, both allow you to surf the web etc... for me battery life is king, after all, tis no good having a fancy gadget if it's potentially gonna run out of charge just when ya need it. There were a lass at a place I once worked at and she had iThings because they looked nicer... aren't all women essentially the same oh, and some men . I'm sure she'll love it either way.

[Scuba_Steve]

it could be that they've ironed out the kinks and Apple know it. My 2c, it matters not a feckin jot. They're both "fast", they both serve apps, both allow you to surf the web etc... for me battery life is king, after all, tis no good having a fancy gadget if it's potentially gonna run out of charge just when ya need it. There were a lass at a place I once worked at and she had iThings because they looked nicer... aren't all women essentially the same oh, and some men . I'm sure she'll love it either way.

You could be onto something, probably have been over thinking it... They both do similar things at similar speeds. Samsung (as people have pointed out) has the flash (tho I've heard Adobe is dropping support, so this would be a limited advantage) & is more customisable out the box (which would probably frustrate her more than entertain, she is not in anyway a "tech" person), but Apple's offering has the much better display, better camera, better batt life, & seemed more intuitive out the box (all things that would please her more I suspect)

looks like again Apple might be the better option for the purpose. Cheers fellas for input, advice & opinions.

[Gremlin]

I've had my overclocked Cyanogenmod phone for around 4 months now. The performance increase is like night and day, and battery life is significantly improved. Stability is better than standard, and I frequently get over 200 hours uptime before I reboot. How's that for an unstable, barely useable OS?

You make a habit out of ignoring requirements don't you? A tip by the way, as I think you're studying in IT. If a client states something, best you take it onboard and give it some attention...

Which brings another point I guess I should inquire about too, how well does Android talk to OS X???

That's a bit of an odd question (not to mention almost impossible to answer)... what exactly are you trying to do?

[Scuba_Steve]

That's a bit of an odd question (not to mention almost impossible to answer)... what exactly are you trying to do?

You maybee thinking too much into the question there???
iPads (for obvious reasons) communicate with OS X quite seamlessly, whereas say the old Zune (anyone remember that "iPod killer"??? ) had no support at all.
Was just wondering if the Galaxy Tab had a sort of seamless connection (like the iPad), average connection (like ext drive), clunky connection (things sorta work but not brilliantly), or just no support at all (like with the Zune, you're on your own)
Questions kinda redundant now seeing as I think the iPads gonna be the best device for the purpose but thats sorta what I was getting at. We run Mac's so just wanted to know how well they would communicate i.e. how easy it'd be for me lady without my assistance.

[SMOKEU]

You make a habit out of ignoring requirements don't you? A tip by the way, as I think you're studying in IT. If a client states something, best you take it onboard and give it some attention...

Fair enough, I just don't like it when people who know fuck all start trying to pretend that they know better than me when they barely know how to turn a computer on. The majority of Apple fans don't even know what a command line is, let alone how to use one, yet they still think that they know it all and that their product of choice is far superior to everything else (by the way, I'm far from an expert and I'm not trying to pretend to be like one). When I ask why they can't even justify their answer with anything more than spewing out marketing drivel that they saw on a bus stop or a TV ad.

[ckai]

You maybee thinking too much into the question there???
iPads (for obvious reasons) communicate with OS X quite seamlessly, whereas say the old Zune (anyone remember that "iPod killer"??? ) had no support at all.
Was just wondering if the Galaxy Tab had a sort of seamless connection (like the iPad), average connection (like ext drive), clunky connection (things sorta work but not brilliantly), or just no support at all (like with the Zune, you're on your own)
Questions kinda redundant now seeing as I think the iPads gonna be the best device for the purpose but thats sorta what I was getting at. We run Mac's so just wanted to know how well they would communicate i.e. how easy it'd be for me lady without my assistance.

Once the 'droid is set up, you're fine. It takes a few more minutes to set up though where as the pad you can just plug it into your mac and you're away. I do literally mean just a few more minutes.

For what it's worth, my opinion is...ummm...maybe get the 'pad. Only because the iPad 3 is nicer than the 2nd gen Galaxy Tab. The 1st gen Tab is pretty good for what you can get them for and if you compare that to the iPad 2, the Tab is better.

BUT, I do have a problem with the closed system of Apple on their smart devices. I have a shit load of apps on my 'droid phone that I have to pay on the 'pad. For this reason, I brought the company a Nexus 7. It would have been easier to get an iPad as we can run our database on an iPad piss easy but we'll just have to do some work arounds.

Personally and for the business we have Mac computers, I got the boss an iPhone, we have 'Droid phones, have an iPad 2 and, like I said, just brought a Nexus 7. So you can say I'm pretty unbiased. The iPhone was brought because the boss wasn't tech savvy. Now she is and that's why I moved to the Nexus.

In my opinion, if someone wants shit loads of apps and doesn't want to pay anything AND doesn't want to play geek on their device, 'Droid is the way to go.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Right you droids, convince me why I should buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 over the iPad 3.
Nows your chance to sway me & you've got some uphill work to do.

I want to know why a Galaxy Tab would be "better" than an iPad, why should I "be assimilated" & things like "you can get to root" or "it has 'faster' specs" ain't gonna cut it I'm not interested in any of that I'm only interested in user experience.

So lets have it, convince me.

its not Apple.

thats really the only reason. All I do on mine is random interdweeb searching and looking at youtube. Its great for that. Plus digital magazines.

[bogan]

Fair enough, I just don't like it when people who know fuck all start trying to pretend that they know better than me when they barely know how to turn a computer on. The majority of Apple fans don't even know what a command line is, let alone how to use one, yet they still think that they know it all and that their product of choice is far superior to everything else (by the way, I'm far from an expert and I'm not trying to pretend to be like one). When I ask why they can't even justify their answer with anything more than spewing out marketing drivel that they saw on a bus stop or a TV ad.

You're still ignoring customer requirements. The marketing things like ease of use etc, are far more important to the client than a command line interface; learn to talk to the client about things they value. The quality of a product is always related to its intended use, not just how you could use it.

[blairnz]

If it's for a lady, I'd recommend the Microsoft Surface, the Windows 8 tablet that is coming out later this month.

Why?
- ease of use
- useful things, like Microsoft Office, with it, too, making it easy to use for study, work, home
- simple to use informative and pretty live tile system
- The magnetic flip cover you can get with it is also a keyboard so you don't waste screen space with a virtual keyboard if you don't want to
- importantly for her, they come in a shit load of colours

Furthermore it looks like it is going to be sold ridiculously cheap, too, to help break it out in to the market.

[SimJen]

Got two Galaxy Tabs for me and the missus both running the latest Android 4. Great units, use wifi and do most of my "computer use" on them.
I've never bought into the Apple hype and fervent fanboyism!, my father has had both an IPad 1 and 2 and I used them a bit before going android. Didn't really like them to tell the truth, and find Android easier and cheaper for apps and my use.
I do everything I used to do on my PC, bar Autocad and Photoshop type stuff.
It also comes with an Office app that is 100% compatible with MS stuff, Word and Excel etc.
Ironic that Samsung make the chips for Apple, but they are in a big stand off over their products!

[SMOKEU]

You're still ignoring customer requirements. The marketing things like ease of use etc, are far more important to the client than a command line interface; learn to talk to the client about things they value. The quality of a product is always related to its intended use, not just how you could use it.

That's not the point, all I'm recommending is a much better product for a cheaper price. What's wrong with that?

[Milts]

Another impressive alternative (not that you're looking for one) is the Asus Transformer Prime:

http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

It's an android tablet, with a docking keyboard/touchpad, which also adds USB ports and about 10 hours extra battery life.

As others have mentioned, Apples are much more locked down, which impacts anything you produce (e.g. if you write a book using some of the apple novel writing software, you can ONLY sell it via iTunes - you can't then go get it published by a typical book publisher). It also impacts the apps which are available to you. Perhaps the biggest issue with this (IMO) is they choose to 'lock out' other people's apps, such as blocking you from downloading Google Maps. And if someone looks to be developing something extremely popular for cheap, they'll either buy it out and up the price or block it completely (Siri was going to be available on iPhone 4: Apple bought them out, and made it iphone 4S exclusive).

Android also seems to handle multi tasking better, and if you ever want to use the device for more than 'consuming', it tends to do that better too. Given the range of manufacturers of android tablets you also have a wider choice of suppliers and prices.