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    'twas Keith Skilling I believe.


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    My uncle was the bomb aimer in a Mossie during the war. He had two more missions to fly before being pulled off operations. His plane got hit over France on a raid. They cleared the English coast and crashed about a mile inland. None survived.
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    The build featured on Close-Up earlier in the week, and then again last night. Said the plane would be shown at Ardmore, then off to the the US. Does that mean its been sold to some billionaire over there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    'twas Keith Skilling I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Whats more it carried much the same payload (4,000lb) as a B17 on long range missions.. 2 crew and a simple fast plane vs 10 crew in a complex behemoth...

    B17 - Short range missions (<400 mi): 8,000 lb (3,600 kg), Long range missions (≈800 mi): 4,500 lb (2,000 kg)

    Brilliant concept
    It was suggested at one stage they build more Mosquitos and quit the Lancasters

    Mosquito - the alternative strategic bomber http://www.2worldwar2.com/mosquito-2.htm
    Bomber command used the De Havilland Mosquito to improve the very poor accuracy of the heavy bombers and to reduce their losses, but it refused to consider the alternative, which was finally adopted only after World War 2 and dominates modern air power since. The alternative was to replace the big and slow and expensive heavy bombers with the Mosquito as Bomber command's main bomber. The points in favor of this alternative were also clearly presented by group commander Bennett, as a comparison between the Mosquito and the Lancaster, which was the best British heavy bomber:

    Mosquito carries to Berlin half the bomb load carried by a Lancaster, but...
    Mosquito loss rate is just 1/10 of Lancasters' loss rate
    Mosquito costs a third of the cost of a Lancaster
    Mosquito has a crew of two, compared to a Lancaster's crew of seven
    Mosquito was a proven precision day bomber and the Lancaster was not.

    Bennett added that any way you do the math with those data, "It's quite clear that the value of the Mosquito to the war effort is significantly greater than that of any other aircraft in the history of aviation". In the German side, Erhard Milch, the deputy head of the Luftwaffe, said about the Mosquito "I fear that one day the British will start attacking with masses of this aircraft". But in one of the greatest allied mistakes in World War 2, bomber command persisted with its heavy bombers, and less than 1/4 of the Mosquitoes produced were of bomber types
    Bomber command used the De Havilland Mosquito to improve the very poor accuracy of the heavy bombers and to reduce their losses, but it refused to consider the alternative, which was finally adopted only after World War 2 and dominates modern air power since. The alternative was to replace the big and slow and expensive heavy bombers with the Mosquito as Bomber command's main bomber. The points in favor of this alternative were also clearly presented by group commander Bennett, as a comparison between the Mosquito and the Lancaster, which was the best British heavy bomber:

    Mosquito carries to Berlin half the bomb load carried by a Lancaster, but...
    Mosquito loss rate is just 1/10 of Lancasters' loss rate
    Mosquito costs a third of the cost of a Lancaster
    Mosquito has a crew of two, compared to a Lancaster's crew of seven
    Mosquito was a proven precision day bomber and the Lancaster was not.

    Bennett added that any way you do the math with those data, "It's quite clear that the value of the Mosquito to the war effort is significantly greater than that of any other aircraft in the history of aviation". In the German side, Erhard Milch, the deputy head of the Luftwaffe, said about the Mosquito "I fear that one day the British will start attacking with masses of this aircraft". But in one of the greatest allied mistakes in World War 2, bomber command persisted with its heavy bombers, and less than 1/4 of the Mosquitoes produced were of bomber types
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Does that mean its been sold to some billionaire over there?
    The owner is Kermit Weeks.
    A major collector in Florida and a genuinely nice chap.




    The Mossie was used by the Pathfinder Force to lay down accurate incendiaries. These were used as the aiming point for the Lancasters, Stirlings and Halifaxes to get their bombs on target.
    A truly amazing aircraft that could (& did!) accomplish so much, whilst being UN-armed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    'twas Keith Skilling I believe.
    Dave did the first flight to Mangere, and Keith flew it back to Ardmore.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The owner is Kermit Weeks.
    A major collector in Florida and a genuinely nice chap.




    The Mossie was used by the Pathfinder Force to lay down accurate incendiaries. These were used as the aiming point for the Lancasters, Stirlings and Halifaxes to get their bombs on target.
    A truly amazing aircraft that could (& did!) accomplish so much, whilst being UN-armed.
    No

    Jerry Yeagan will be very upset to find Kermit is the owner seeing he paid for it... Kermit has his own mark B35 to get back in the air in Florida...Jerry is based in Virginia.....
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Things have got to a low ebb when Warbirds flies better kit than the RNZAF.
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    A totally incredible machine. As they say, what sounds better than a Merlin engine - 2 Merlins!
    I wonder if anyone has written a book on all the special ops these planes were selected for because of their unique characteristics in WWII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    No

    Jerry Yeagan will be very upset to find Kermit is the owner seeing he paid for it... Kermit has his own mark B35 to get back in the air in Florida...Jerry is based in Virginia.....
    Wonder if there are enough plans, patterns and jigs to start bulding replicas?

    The N restorers must be getting a pretty impressive reputation around the world.
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    Mossies rule the sky! Beautiful machine!

    Mosquitos were the F15Es of the day and the Typhoon the A-10s of WW II..
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    Gott in Himmel dis iz very disturbing to a non nazi like myself.I vill have nein option but to fire up my Messerschmidt me 109 and vonce again return to ze skies to fight for ze fatherland and rid ze skies of zis machine.it is about time for a re run of zis war as ze last time ze englander Schwein let the tyres down on our planes so we could not take off which is pure cheating !!
    Signed Adolf Hitler......nein nein I mean Bruce Smith from ze Naki!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Wonder if there are enough plans, patterns and jigs to start bulding replicas?
    On TV they said he is working on a second Mosquito

    Given enough money they can build anything, they built some replica flying ME262 jets in America
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Glynn is working on his own ex Aussie (and RNZAF) T43. The fuselage and wings are done, and lots of small fittings.However, Glynn isn't getting any younger, and he ain't wealthy.....so....one can but hope for this wonderful chap.
    Avspecs next Mossie is the T3 that used to be in the Science Museum in London, for Paul Allen in Seattle. It I'll probably retain it's original fuselage, but needs a new wing (the original had one cut off to fit in the museum)
    The next to fly I'll probably be the B35 in Vancouver. This is all original, but will probably only fly a few times before being grounded and put into a museum....
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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