Originally Posted by scott411
good lord! who runs anything serious from fucking Huntly!
"channellling the Pleideans"
good lord! who runs anything serious from fucking Huntly!
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Registered User
Would love to enlighten you all,BUT,My job is to run roadracing and nothing else,I don't know anything about it and so long as it doesn't interfere with my plans,I don't much care,
Best place to find out would be the office or the board.
Hardcore Biker
If any of you impassioned motorcyclists actually attended the MNZ AGM or spoke to your club or club delegates who did attend on your behalf you would fully understand as there was a 1.5 hour presentation of what Riders Division was about.
Riders division is a separate entity 100% owned by MNZ to focus on the non competitive side of motorcycling in NZ which includes Trail riding, Adventure riding, road riding etc etc. Rders Division also works with DOL and other government depts on this area and general motorcycling legislation policy etc.
There you go.
"channellling the Pleideans"
One question: why?
Why do you needto incorporate a separate limited liability company to undertake what must be a core function? shirley the setup and compliance cost could be spent elsewhere more ptroductively. Maybe actually doing something?
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Hardcore Biker
Mum always said if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all...so I will not say anything.....Talk to your club or club delegate.
Ta
I would have attended the AGM and loudly opposed letting MNZ have any say in road riding matters, had I known I was on the agenda. But alas I received no notification.
Why would we want this organization offering what is probably expected to be a credible opinion, but is more likely a completely out of touch view of transportation.
There are now about five groups trying to tell LTNZ how best to protect motorcyclists, that'll give whoever has to hear it all a fuckin headache! Hahahaha. We'll never be taken seriously!
one placenta
...and it's arrogant retorts like that , that will only raise the hackles of members even more...for your info our two club delegates know 5/8ths of f.a about this set-up. They were fully involved in other aspects of road racing while there and missed the 1.5 hour presentation...if you want to treat the members like mushrooms then be prepared to be treated like the shit they spread on them to grow...the only time questions seemed to be answered is after the fact and again the old gem of " if you were there we would know"...bullshit...any remits we put forward before the AGM are kicked to the sideline if they are too sticky or ignored altogether...whats wrong with straight answers to members about their sport and what is being done to them or on their behalf...how much of the extra money collected from racers is going into these initiatives with quasi governmental agencies that want to have so much say in our sport...in the end they are all there only to justify there own existence...again, more MX and off road shit that road racers have to live with?....
"channellling the Pleideans"
Dick.
really helpful. Thanks for that.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Hardcore Biker
Well, it has Tuckerman listed as a director so it will likely be ill conceived and non-inclusive.
Forum whore
I did, he mentioned something was mentioned but did not have the full details, most of the delegates seemed to not realise that they had to memoriese everything to the letter,
a bit more info that is easily available would make things a shit load easier, the company was registered before the conference, hardly a consultive approach really when it was already done, alot like the price rise of the liceinces, you did not want to take any advice on it and the decision had already been made,
KB Chief Cat Herder
As usual ....
Zen wisdom: No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously. - obviously had KB in mind when he came up with that gem
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
Saving the goat....
No notification??Surely not Drew??
Actually, come to think of it, I never received notification about the AGM or financials or elections of officers in the post before the AGM either. Come to think of it, I was never sent minutes of the AGM either.
So, I rang a few people (8 actually), and low and behold, they hadn't received any notification of the AGM either.
Did poor old Jimmy not want us to attend?? Is that why it was held so far away?
Did he not remember MNZ's constitutional requirements to advise their members??
How many other members never received AGM notifications?
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
"channellling the Pleideans"
Actually I prefer the Special Olympics one, non-pc that it is.
But the point remains, does it not, that legitemate, reasonable questions have been asked, and the people whose job it is to answer them are refusing to do so. And sure, they're volunteers and all that but the fact is they are there to do a job, they said they'd do it, and yet what comes back is smart arse comments and a smug attitude, and a refusal to engage the members directly, on probably the best way to ensure the maximum exposure especially to persons taking a casual (or at least irregular) interest.
And maybe the rank and file are being unreasonable, maybe it was discussed, maybe it is all for the good, but the point is that the people whose job it is to explain it and convince the plebs treat them with the same respect that rank and file get treated by any politician.
Bad show.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Registered User
I spoke to Vicky at the MNZ office about this yesterday and she informed me there was a section on this subject on the old website and as soon as she has time it will be added to the new website also,Sop the info has been available for all up until a couple of weeks ago and it didnt appear to be a problem before ????
As far as the personal attacks on Jim Tuckerman are concerned and the running of MNZ Simon,Its been so long since you had any relevant input to roadracing,I doubt you'd have a clue what your talking about,If ever.
KB Chief Cat Herder
As requested ....
The other one is more appropriate though cos there sure as hell isn't going to be a winner out of this argument.
Zen wisdom: No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously. - obviously had KB in mind when he came up with that gem
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
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