Sticky Tar Day

**speeding_ant** · 5th January 2013, 14:33

Just because the road is hot doesn't mean you have consistent traction, avoid the pools of black tar. Complete loss of traction around top apex of corner. Managed to hold onto it, got a little hairy though.

Live you learn I guess.

Just an idea, a great sticky would be some photos highlighting which surfaces can be difficult to deal with in certain weather conditions.

**\m/** · 5th January 2013, 14:42

Originally Posted by speeding_ant

Just because the road is hot doesn't mean you have consistent traction, avoid the pools of black tar. Complete loss of traction around top apex of corner. Managed to hold onto it, got a little hairy though.

Live you learn I guess.

Just an idea, a great sticky would be some photos highlighting which surfaces can be difficult to deal with in certain weather conditions.

If you think bare tar is bad, wait till you go through a patch of cowshit on a frosty morning.

**speeding_ant** · 5th January 2013, 14:51

Fair call

**curly** · 5th January 2013, 15:03

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...tar-sticky-tar

**Grizzo** · 5th January 2013, 15:08

Melted tar = Sphincter biting hole in seat.

**scumdog** · 5th January 2013, 15:13

I was in Aussie over Xmas, 45C or so, NO melted tar on the roads.

Why the Eff can't Kiwi roads be the same???

**Zedder** · 5th January 2013, 15:58

A few things about significant road bleeding: Firstly, please report it to NZTA or a local authority. It can be corrected easily enough in the short term.

The choice of bitumen (not tar, it's illegal) binder is very important in road pavement construction. Temperature at site is a critical factor and NZ roads have different binder types to address the varying heat ranges.

So, in Oz because of the higher temperatures, different binder types are used. If necessary, the use of high pressure water cutters to flush off bleeding and refresh the road surface is used. Watercutting has been trialled here as well.

**Ocean1** · 5th January 2013, 16:12

Originally Posted by Zedder

If necessary, the use of high pressure water cutters to flush off bleeding and refresh the road surface is used. Watercutting has been trialled here as well.

Do I get to rabbit on about the ol' de-slicker MKII again?

**Gremlin** · 5th January 2013, 16:17

Originally Posted by scumdog

I was in Aussie over Xmas, 45C or so, NO melted tar on the roads.

Why the Eff can't Kiwi roads be the same???

Don't worry about that. The South Island workers do a better job than the North Island. Smoother joins between surfaces, no melting and probably higher temperatures.

Could we borrow yours some time? We've had newly resealed roads falling apart at 10am...

**scumdog** · 5th January 2013, 16:23

Originally Posted by Zedder

So, in Oz because of the higher temperatures, different binder types are used. If necessary, the use of high pressure water cutters to flush off bleeding and refresh the road surface is used. Watercutting has been trialled here as well.

Well send some of that binder here!

**scumdog** · 5th January 2013, 16:25

Originally Posted by Zedder

A few things about significant road bleeding: Firstly, please report it to NZTA or a local authority. It can be corrected easily enough in the short term.

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A shame we find out after the first 3-4 have cart-wheeled off the wet road after hitting the bleed...

**ellipsis** · 5th January 2013, 16:26

Originally Posted by scumdog

Why the Eff can't Kiwi roads be the same???

...cheap chinese tar made in india i 'spose..

**James Deuce** · 5th January 2013, 16:30

Originally Posted by Zedder

A few things about significant road bleeding: Firstly, please report it to NZTA or a local authority. It can be corrected easily enough in the short term.

Why? So they can spread some grit and pea gravel around and make it worse? Haven't seen a decent repair in some 30 years now and call bullshit on the quality of bitumen and binders used now. I'm picking there's one bulk store per region with one grade of bitumen and varying quantities of turps added depending on how far it has to be transported. Every repair I've seen of late has decreased traction, created a significant bump and eventually bleeds over the bleed it was supposed to repair.