Biker down?

[R-Soul]

In todays Herald:

"A 25-year-old motorcyclist, killed in Bay of Plenty last night, crashed after being told not to ride after drinking alcohol, police said."
No further details?

[MSTRS:Me]

Not only pissed, wasn't wearing a helmet.
No sympathy for ones like this...

[Bassmatt]

Not only pissed, wasn't wearing a helmet.
No sympathy for ones like this...

Yep, only got about 500m before he crashed too, apparently.

[R-Soul]

Anybody that appears on these forums regularly?

[Ntoxcated]

His family's loss will not be any less.

[FJRider]

Another motorcyclist's death to add to this years statistic's ...

[caseye]

In todays Herald:

"A 25-year-old motorcyclist, killed in Bay of Plenty last night, crashed after being told not to ride after drinking alcohol, police said."
No further details?

R-Soul this is in no way meant as an attack or slagging off of your concerns when it comes to fellow riders.


I read the article too, like MSTRS, I find it hard to muster any sympathy, having said that two things come to mind.

yes it's not going to make his immediate family any less mortified and upset.
The Darwin effect is no respecter of status or skill levels when they do it anyway.

The thread topic, Rider Down makes me cringe at the best of times,especially if it turns out it was someone many of us knew and respected/liked.
Then though the thread has a purpose and we can all of us lament or otherwise the circumstance and or the passing of a fellow KB'er, not to mention find out vital information re arrangements, dates etc.

But more than anything else I see no need for this sort of thread here, if the rider concerned was not a member here or was not know to the OP.

It happens we all know that, most of us avoid it on a daily basis and really don't want to be reminded how close we come nor how often.

[paturoa]

It happens we all know that, most of us avoid it on a daily basis and really don't want to be reminded how close we come nor how often.

Respecting the biker down rulz. You may not want to be reminded, so respectively, don't read threads with titles "biker down" in them.

At the appropriate time I'll be very interested in the armco collision details. For example, was the design of the "safety" barrier a contributing factor?

[Kickaha]

For example, was the design of the "safety" barrier a contributing factor?

Probably not as much as being pissed and not wearing a helmet

[caseye]

With respect, there is no, "biker down rule"
This rider had had a few, he was told by friends not to ride, he did not put on a lid, he did not get past the first corner, less than 500m's from the place he had just left.
I'm sorry but I cannot respect anyone who doesn't listen to his mates, who doesn't take responsibility for his own actions and who is then defended under a blanket "there's a biker down rule"
Add to that the implication that somehow a crash barrier magically hopped out in front of him and we've got a classic waste of time thread on KB.
Our time here on KB would be better spent talking about how to improve rider safety, starting with taking responsibility for your own actions first and foremost and not blaming someone/thing else for your poor decision making.

[Akzle]

Anybody that appears on these forums regularly?

sorry to disappoint

[jellywrestler]

At the appropriate time I'll be very interested in the armco collision details. For example, was the design of the "safety" barrier a contributing factor?

yep it worked faultlessly, stopped this chimp taking someone else's life, simple as that, after all Katman might have been coming the other way 'test riding a customers bike' in t shirt and shorts and got skittled!

[Magnum Noel]

sorry to disappoint

[mossy1200]

Im not into biker down threads as its hard to be constructive in responding.
I guess everyone dies at some point but it does seem like this persons choices moved the date forward.

[Katman]

yep it worked faultlessly, stopped this chimp taking someone else's life, simple as that, after all Katman might have been coming the other way 'test riding a customers bike' in t shirt and shorts and got skittled!

I'd have avoided him.