'He killed girlfriend due to emotional pain', court told

**jrandom** · 24th June 2009, 18:05

Here's the NZ Herald article.

Given the details available, what's all y'all's take on the apparent defence of reduced responsibility due to emotional pain making him lose self-control?

Me, I'd acquit him. There are quite a few bitches out there that need a good stabbing, and reading between the lines, I'd say he got himself one.

Chances are he's saved dozens of other guys a broken heart in the future.

Now, maybe he shouldn't get a medal, exactly, but I'd certainly say it's not a case of cold-blooded murder.

So.

Can emotional pain ever form justifiable provocation for murder?

Does cruelly driving someone to that state of mind make a murder victim someone that the world is better off without?

Your thoughts please, ladies and gentlemen.

**mowgli** · 24th June 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by jrandom

Can emotional pain ever form justifiable provocation for murder?

Is this the same defence applied in battered wife cases?

**wbks** · 24th June 2009, 18:08

I know that you shouldn't bite the bait, but my thoughts are thats a really stupid thing to say

**jrandom** · 24th June 2009, 18:09

Originally Posted by mowgli

Is this the same defence applied in battered wife cases?

'Emotional pain'? I haven't ever heard of it being applied thusly, no.

**Matt Bleck** · 24th June 2009, 18:09

You better hope boomer doesn't see this thread.....

**Ragingrob** · 24th June 2009, 18:11

Sounds pretty weak to me. What the hell could the girl say to him to make him stab her more than 200 times? Cutting her ears off, slicing the end of her nose off, cutting a nipple off, stabbing her breasts, not to mention stabbing her lower area too.

Freaks like that need to be in jail. Killing someone isn't exactly a great way of handling your emotions. Some road-users drive me insane but I don't pull them outta their car and severe their body parts.

Hope he doesn't drop the soap.

**Katman** · 24th June 2009, 18:13

Stabbed over 200 times.

Is there that much space on a human body?

(But was he wearing a colourful jersey? He might get off - eventually)

**jrandom** · 24th June 2009, 18:14

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

What the hell could the girl say to him to make him stab her more than 200 times? Cutting her ears off, slicing the end of her nose off, cutting a nipple off, stabbing her breasts, not to mention stabbing her lower area too.

Freaks like that need to be in jail.

So it's the manner in which he killed her that bothers you.

Interesting.

Would you feel better about it if he'd limited himself to, say, a single shot to the back of her head?

**MIXONE** · 24th June 2009, 18:16

I reckon he should claim self defence!

**Ragingrob** · 24th June 2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by jrandom

So it's the manner in which he killed her that bothers you.

Interesting.

Would you feel better about it if he'd limited himself to, say, a single shot to the back of her head?

Maybe you shouldn't quote half of what I said...

You miss things such as -

"Killing someone isn't exactly a great way of handling your emotions"

So no... It's not just the manner.

**Maha** · 24th June 2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by Katman

Stabbed over 200 times.

Is there that much space on a human body?

Yes, if you use a toothpick.

**jrandom** · 24th June 2009, 18:17

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

"Killing someone isn't exactly a great way of handling your emotions"

Bear in mind, though, we can't all be perfect.

**wbks** · 24th June 2009, 18:18

A single shot might indicate he did it to kill her, not because he's a fucking freak who wanted to degrade her and destroy her body... Or so I would imagine what with the stabbing of certain parts and slicing up her body. He should have gone the other way people who get fucked around by a girl and cant get over it choose: Suicide