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    Quote Originally Posted by Groins_NZ
    I read that it was unwise to run a different front tyre if you had the Z6 on the rear as both the Z6 front & rear worked in unison when riding in the wet i.e. the front is meant to disperse water for the rear - or something like that?
    Have had different tyre on my bikes for 30y's . Haven't found a set that are perfect together even when they are the same brand . I use the best front & best back of the same brand eg soft/hard compounds & sometimes different ones mix matched . Do what you want dude you'll learn

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    Had M1's for the front and Z6's for the rear on the SV650S... rode it pretty hard down in the mainland the April just been and they were great! I also had anywhere from no luggage to around 30/40kg of luggage while at it..

    I'll be getting the same thing again for the 750 when I wear out the 014's

    Re the M1 Vs Z6 front tread... they are basiclly the same, and the Z6 rear has more than enough grooves for water I think....
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    Z6 are the bizzo. I had them on my old GSXR750 and they lasted a while plus they performed very well at Manfeild and Pukekohe trackdays.

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    My 2 cent,

    I can reckon Metzlers (M-1 or racetech), find them very sticky and easy to control. They don’t like the cold and compare to pilot sport and power not that good in the wet. After a short play with Michelins (sport and power) I’ve just done 600k’s on BT014 and found those shoes as good as Metzlers.


    mjvduc

    Btw there is a big difference between Metzler and Pirelli!!!! Metzler is made and engineered in germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjvduc
    My 2 cent,

    I can reckon Metzlers (M-1 or racetech), find them very sticky and easy to control. They don’t like the cold and compare to pilot sport and power not that good in the wet. After a short play with Michelins (sport and power) I’ve just done 600k’s on BT014 and found those shoes as good as Metzlers.


    mjvduc

    Btw there is a big difference between Metzler and Pirelli!!!! Metzler is made and engineered in germany
    So you recon the BT014 is on par with the M1's? Any idea price wise how they compare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapf
    So you recon the BT014 is on par with the M1's? Any idea price wise how they compare?
    metzlers or sportec's are a bit pricier than bridgestones, at least in NZ 220NZD front to 245 (M-1) and 250 rear to 280 (M-1) size 120/70 and 180/55. I’m defiantly a sportec fan, but over here the tyre prices are high and the roads aren’t that good either.


    My 2 cents (again)

    Pirelli (super) corsa: stunning tyre, top in dry conditions and good in the wet as well, but too expensive over here (3500k’s)
    Metzler/sportec: my personal favorite, stunning tyre and very good to handle. not that good in the wet and in cold conditions but always good for 5000k’s (rear tyre)
    Pilot power and sport: rear tyre was done after 2500k’s and I had always an unsafe feeling. But a good tyre for cold and wet conditions, wouldn’t buy it in the summer.
    BT014, just done 600k’s but was positive surprised nice handling and grip.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mjvduc
    metzlers or sportec's are a bit pricier than bridgestones, at least in NZ 220NZD front to 245 (M-1) and 250 rear to 280 (M-1) size 120/70 and 180/55. I’m defiantly a sportec fan, but over here the tyre prices are high and the roads aren’t that good either.


    My 2 cents (again)

    Pirelli (super) corsa: stunning tyre, top in dry conditions and good in the wet as well, but too expensive over here (3500k’s)
    Metzler/sportec: my personal favorite, stunning tyre and very good to handle. not that good in the wet and in cold conditions but always good for 5000k’s (rear tyre)
    Pilot power and sport: rear tyre was done after 2500k’s and I had always an unsafe feeling. But a good tyre for cold and wet conditions, wouldn’t buy it in the summer.
    BT014, just done 600k’s but was positive surprised nice handling and grip.


    mjvduc

    I have just done about 3'500 k's on the factory BT014's and the rear is looking slightly low... and I am a nana..! so will let u know when I finally run out of the rear aya.
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    Btw there is a big difference between Metzler and Pirelli!!!! Metzler is made and engineered in germany [/QUOTE]

    Dude they are made by the same people in the same factory . Just not made public .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Btw there is a big difference between Metzler and Pirelli!!!! Metzler is made and engineered in germany
    Dude they are made by the same people in the same factory . Just not made public .[/QUOTE]

    No, they do run separate engineering departments, test teams and you won’t find any metlzers made in italy (so far). Pirelli and metzler merged back in 1986 to keep up with the japs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjvduc
    Dude they are made by the same people in the same factory . Just not made public .
    No, they do run separate engineering departments, test teams and you won’t find any metlzers made in italy (so far). Pirelli and metzler merged back in 1986 to keep up with the japs.mjvduc
    Sorry Dude was told to me by NZ Road race Champion & Ilse of Man winner thought he might know something .Oh well will have to bash him when I see him this week for you for Lying to me .

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    Got the Pirellis fitted today. Thought I'd post a couple of pics. Rear tyre tread is very chunky looking & rubber very supple. Ride home over Paekak Hill was sweet, just cruising and the bike felt nice and smooth - I think the tires take some of the bumpiness out of the ride.

    Here ya go, after the first 30km...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Sorry Dude was told to me by NZ Road race Champion & Ilse of Man winner thought he might know something .Oh well will have to bash him when I see him this week for you for Lying to me .

    hit him hard for talking bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groins_NZ
    Got the Pirellis fitted today. Thought I'd post a couple of pics. Rear tyre tread is very chunky looking & rubber very supple. Ride home over Paekak Hill was sweet, just cruising and the bike felt nice and smooth - I think the tires take some of the bumpiness out of the ride.

    Here ya go, after the first 30km...
    Hmmm. Same modus operandi as a Z6. And they look remarkably similar as well. Enjoy them!
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    My 2c.

    Had diablo's on the Cibber. Had some pretty good grip and i found they had reliabl;e feedback, no "just let go" moments on them. I got 6000km out of the front and rear. (yes both wore out evenly)

    Replaces them with avons a sport tourer on the rear and a sport on the front. Only had 1 or 2 decent ride on them but from what i can gather the front sticks like flies to shit. The rear is also pretty good under power and holds well when warm. Very good in the wet. $500 a set.

    Got M1's on the gixxer and they seem to do a good job as well.

    Please let me know how long those strada's last cause i might think of getting some ex-racies for the gixxer when these ones wear out (poor student) but if they last ages i might spend the dough on the strada's
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    I have a mate who has a TL1000 and commutes every day over the Wainuiomata hill. Rain or shine. If you don't know this road, It's very fast with poor camber and when wet, is very slippery.

    My mates gone to the Pirelli Diablos and he has just clocked 10,000km on them and they look only half worn. I was bald on my SV1000 at 9,000Km and I'm an easy going rider and he's a hoon riding a demanding road daily.
    He has commented on not noticing any loss in traction from the Diablos.
    He has been convincing me to try them.

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