Rent a cop?

[nudemetalz]

Reminds me of when the Yanks didn't have enough soldiers in Iraq to shoot people.
So they brought in some sort of firm called "Blackwater".......

[SMOKEU]

I'm not stopping for one of those "contractors". What are they going to do, charge me for failing to stop?

[Swoop]

... must try harder next time.

We already have a group of people who can stop vehicles and check them over to see if they meet WoF standards.
We call them "the police". A vehicle needs to be up to WoF standards all the time (as we all know) if used on our roads.

The MTA owns VTNZ, so there is plenty of backroom politics and shenannigans going on behind the scenes to protect a cash cow of theirs. A shame Murph has been duped into fronting an advertising campaign that is nothing more than scaremongering.

[awa355]

What a fucking waste of money to change a system for the worse. Fucking useless government.

More to the point, what are they selling or making legal this week? This pile of shit has to be a smoke screen.

The govt has quietly announced changes to some employment laws coming up next year. Going to smash the lower paid once again,

[SPman]

... i saw this three days ago. wondered how long before someone would start a thread.

the government legislating private corporations to have the same "authority" as the police to forcibly detain people, what could go wrong?

if you don't stop for them, will they phone the police for backup?

this is a fucking stupid idea, your govenrment trying to get another foot on your neck (while saving the almighty budget)

and OP, you are right. private corporations are in the profitable business, of, well, profitable business.

if it floats, it will not end well.

Wot he said!

Could this "Daddy State", rudderless, useless pack of cunts in Government get any worse???????

[Coolz]

We already have a group of people who can stop vehicles and check them over to see if they meet WoF standards.
We call them "the police". A vehicle needs to be up to WoF standards all the time (as we all know) if used on our roads.

The MTA owns VTNZ, so there is plenty of backroom politics and shenannigans going on behind the scenes to protect a cash cow of theirs. A shame Murph has been duped into fronting an advertising campaign that is nothing more than scaremongering.

The current wof system works fine. The only reason for messing with it is to extract more money from the motorist. Bit like ACC.

[Akzle]

Incredibly stupid and another
a: waste of resources,
b: waste of time,
c: waste of taxpayer's money.


So it is bound to happen once labour get re-elected.

wakey wakey (six hit it. this is national all over.
but. to look at the bigger picture, this is "democratic" governance, all over.)

But isn't Simon Bridges the National Parties Associate Transport Minister? Nice try, must try harder next time.

"...must spread..."

But these seems like a good idea... hire some no nothing retards, badge them up, give them some power, make some police redundant, gee, what could possibly go wrong.

Worst idea ever...

come on guys.... they're your duly elected leaders, they know what's good for you.

(ps. maybe get off your lazy ass, go for a hikoi, and burn some shit down in protest. like the prime minister.)

Should civilians be given the power to stop people on the side of the road??? Hell no ...

sorry to disappoint, but, as you'll understand it, they're actually giving COMPANIES (and their agents/employees) this authority. they're not private civilians if they're acting as agents for a public/private third party.

(ps - a person / "citizen" is legally a corporate entity)

OOOOIII keep it tidy

that's her job

We already have a group of people who can stop vehicles and check them over to see if they meet WoF standards.
We call them "the police". A vehicle needs to be up to WoF standards all the time (as we all know) if used on our roads.

The MTA owns VTNZ, so there is plenty of backroom politics and shenannigans going on behind the scenes to protect a cash cow of theirs. A shame Murph has been duped into fronting an advertising campaign that is nothing more than scaremongering.

well... lawfully speaking.....
BUT, LTNZ (teh government) own "your" vehicles (unless they're unregistered), so they can actually do what the fuck they like. you don't get a say.

Could this "Daddy State", rudderless, useless pack of cunts in Government get any worse???????

vote (national) next round and find out...

[Swoop]

The current wof system works fine.

Apart from being too expensive. This started a few years back and has not improved recently.

[Oblivion]

The only time that I will pull over is for a member of the police or other emergency services. I will not pull over for some asshole with a checklist that inherited his position from a weetbix box. Half the time they probably won't even know what the hell they are looking for.

[blue rider]

It is going to be 1 hell of an exercise "IF" it goes ahead ( cant see it tho )

Holiday Season : Family of 5 going away, car is packed full of gear, boat on the back, 2 of the 3 kids are under 5 .... got the dog in the back .... " Oh look at that the cops are doing a check point to make ^"revenue" sure we are safe, ok kids out of the car stand on the side of the road & hold the dog, just make sure that you dont get hit by another car tho"

Sorry cant see it working

fuckwits


& Does this mean that if I fail to stop for 1 of these so called "road side tests" & nail it .... does that mean he is allowed to chase me in his prius ? If so ... that would make him a cop

your little scenario reminds of the good old times crossing from west germany over to west berlin via east germany......lol twas just like that. minus the boat.

[Akzle]

The only time that I will pull over is for a member of the police or other emergency services. I will not pull over for some asshole with a checklist that inherited his position from a weetbix box. Half the time they probably won't even know what the hell they are looking for.

no.


if your government ligislates that the company has the authority of the police, you will pull over. not doing so would be illegal.

ps. why should you pull over for the police any more than for any other guy?

[ducatilover]

The govt has quietly announced changes to some employment laws coming up next year. Going to smash the lower paid once again,

Smash them, then bust them for the tyres they cannot afford, win win!

[Banditbandit]

sorry to disappoint, but, as you'll understand it, they're actually giving COMPANIES (and their agents/employees) this authority. they're not private civilians if they're acting as agents for a public/private third party.

(ps - a person / "citizen" is legally a corporate entity)

You're playing with semantics ... the guvment is extending powers to stop people on the side of the road ... that's always a bad thing is it not? I am sure that a practicing anarchist such as yourself would understand and agree with that ...

ps. why should you pull over for the police any more than for any other guy?

No especial reason in terms of accepting the authority of the police, or recognising the validity of the enforcement arm of state power ... I deny any real authority or legitimacy to the state and all its enforcement arms.

However in terms of the consequences of ones own actions (the only basis for a decision based total personal responsibility and liability and maintaining individual freedom) the reason to stop for a police officer is that it's just too much hassle further down the track ... in terms of them coming to look for you, the hassle of dealing with a failing to stop charge .. etc etc .. (Oh .. except for the last time I didn't stop - just opened the throttle and booted it .. never saw the cop again ...)

So it's a purely pragmatic decision to stop - and nothing to do with politics at all ..

[oneofsix]

You're playing with semantics ... the guvment is extending powers to stop people on the side of the road ... that's always a bad thing is it not? I am sure that a practicing anarchist such as yourself would understand and agree with that ...

governement extending such powers to private companies always ends badly

[Akzle]

You're playing with semantics ...

you know what "the law" is, right?

(see other thread for "you're wrong about this anarchism theory")