Customer owes me two grand, best way to get it?

**jellywrestler** · 30th October 2012, 21:54

OK folks, i've got a customer owes me just over $2K should I lodge it with bay corp or the small claims court or what is the most efficient way.
And no my invoice doesn't say recovery is on their cost.

**Gremlin** · 30th October 2012, 22:00

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

OK folks, i've got a customer owes me just over $2K should I lodge it with bay corp or the small claims court or what is the most efficient way.
And no my invoice doesn't say recovery is on their cost.

Have they admitted it? Are they contesting the amount? Generally, Veda (new name for Baycorp) won't touch something if it's disputed. Also, debt collection companies want money upfront before they even do any work.

Disputes Tribunal is cheap, and you'll get a judgement in your favour (assuming you win), however, there is still the enforcement side if they just give you the finger. Individual or company?

**Woodman** · 30th October 2012, 22:04

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

OK folks, i've got a customer owes me just over $2K should I lodge it with bay corp or the small claims court or what is the most efficient way.
And no my invoice doesn't say recovery is on their cost.

Give seven days written notice that you are taking it to Baycorp, then phone or visit when the deadline is two days away with the facts about what happens to someone who gets on the Baycorp books.

Don't fuck about, its your money and you don't work for free.

**mossy1200** · 30th October 2012, 22:05

Is the bill disputed for any reason?

If its the customer is in financial problems will the courts award you so little per week that its pointless?

Has it gone nasty or can it be resolved with a payment plan?

Whats the recovery costs for bay corps help? would you feel ok about effecting someones life with debt collectors.
What percentage approx of the 2k is total loss in costs excluding profit(work out for yourself if recovery is worth the time involved)

The only reason im not self employed is I couldnt handle these issues very well I think.

**Gremlin** · 30th October 2012, 22:10

Originally Posted by Woodman

Give seven days written notice that you are taking it to Baycorp, then phone or visit when the deadline is two days away with the facts about what happens to someone who gets on the Baycorp books.

The company I work for has been on both sides of disputes over the last few years. Some think that "setting" Baycorp on you is an easy ticket to payment.

Wrong, when they tried to chase us, we told them it was under dispute. Bye bye. Last time or two, they wanted proof, but that was about it.

**ac3_snow** · 30th October 2012, 22:28

I've seen this posted before somewhere on KB

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread...5&pagenumber=1

Guy went through the process of 'notice of claim' and court proceedings etc to get his money back. I think filling with the district court cost about $150 but this was all just added on to the money which he got of the debtor at the end of it all.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 30th October 2012, 23:01

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

OK folks, i've got a customer owes me just over $2K should I lodge it with bay corp or the small claims court or what is the most efficient way.
And no my invoice doesn't say recovery is on their cost.

I know a few very good debt collectors if you'd like to use them?

**awayatc** · 31st October 2012, 06:52

Customer once owed me quite abit for signwriting....
Didn't pay....
didnt answer..

Pulled up at his place towed his runabout away...
Stuck a few stickers on and send him a letter:

Signwriting on your boat as requested finished .
Please collect and pay outstanding account.

After certain procedure/ amount of time you are allowed to sell on auction to recover costs....

as it was I had Boat over summer and enjoyed it....

M***F*ckers should pay their bills

**FJRider** · 31st October 2012, 06:57

Gunpoint works for me ...

**jellywrestler** · 31st October 2012, 07:21

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Is the bill disputed for any reason?he thinks it's too much, i sat with him for an hour and a half and went through every part on the job he added it up came to the exact figure and then said no that can't be right. He is fijian indian, it is in their culture to haggle
he's offered me $1500 I counter offered $1800 which takes all my markup and a proportion of my hours, sounds like a back down but it's a solution to end it without this shit.

If its the customer is in financial problems will the courts award you so little per week that its pointless?

he can pay no problem

Has it gone nasty or can it be resolved with a payment plan?no, just in his nature to try and beat it down

Whats the recovery costs for bay corps help? no ideawould you feel ok about effecting someones life with debt collectors.the guy watched every minute of me doing the work i bent over backwards to get it perfect no travel time worked a couple of hours on the day of my 50th when i had guests and all and i as i said he came up with the same figures and then says it's wrong, how does he feel inflicting this on me?????
What percentage approx of the 2k is total loss in costs excluding profit(work out for yourself if recovery is worth the time involved)
it's a principal too

The only reason im not self employed is I couldnt handle these issues very well I think.

I know it's not fun, he's come back and i f rewrite the bill to $1800 he will pay straight away, i'm worried that then he may baulk and the $1800 may end up the new starting point etc. I simply said pay the $1800 and i'll adjust the bill to fit, that's were we're at now.

**sinfull** · 31st October 2012, 07:53

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

I know it's not fun, he's come back and i f rewrite the bill to $1800 he will pay straight away, i'm worried that then he may baulk and the $1800 may end up the new starting point etc. I simply said pay the $1800 and i'll adjust the bill to fit, that's were we're at now.

I agree with crasher !

What i'd do now is write the new bill with interest added on, for time you have been waiting ! He's sure to want to talk about that, fuck em i say, if he baulks again tell him you'll keep adding interest at disproportional amounts till the cost of dodgy collectors has been added, then fuck him over !~

**Naki Rat** · 31st October 2012, 08:19

Originally Posted by Gremlin

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Disputes Tribunal is cheap, and you'll get a judgement in your favour (assuming you win), however, there is still the enforcement side if they just give you the finger. Individual or company?

I had a ruling in my favour from the Small Claims Court regarding damages relating to spray drift into my Organic orchard. The offender (ignorant land agent neighbour

) failed to pay by the due date so I approached the courts who requested I informed them of his vehicle's rego. Information supplied and the bailiffs turned up at the real estate office to take possession of his Subaru Outback.

He paid

**slofox** · 31st October 2012, 08:26

You need to employ Mr Tombolino...he likes to breaka da leg...

Other than that, small claims. I used that process once and although it took a while, I did get the money.

**Banditbandit** · 31st October 2012, 08:36

Sic Baycorp on him ... he is clearly not disputing the bill ... might scare him into paying ... he deserves it ..

BUT BayCorp once turned up on my door for a debt - I told them it was in dispute - the collector did not walk away - he told me what to do ... I did it .. and the company went away - saved me shit loads ..

So BayCorp collectors might not always be on your side ..

**HenryDorsetCase** · 31st October 2012, 08:57

Originally Posted by awayatc

Customer once owed me quite abit for signwriting....
Didn't pay....
didnt answer..

Pulled up at his place towed his runabout away...
Stuck a few stickers on and send him a letter:

Signwriting on your boat as requested finished .
Please collect and pay outstanding account.

After certain procedure/ amount of time you are allowed to sell on auction to recover costs....

as it was I had Boat over summer and enjoyed it....

M***F*ckers should pay their bills

That is awesome. Totally illegal, but awesome nonetheless.

Extra-legal remedies are often the most effective.