MotoGP 2013

**Reckless** · 6th July 2013, 11:50

Originally Posted by BMWST?

I dont really like him.He is a fantastic talent for sure but the Gibernau thing turned me off him.It will be intesrting for the rest of the season for sure with those 4 +cal.I have got a feeling history may repeat itself,and it will be most interesting to see what the outcome is in todays PC world

I can see how people wouldn't like him as well to be honest. But thought he was genuine in that interview.
Your right tho 4 fighting for the prize its a good year

I also hope Cal actually gets to scrap with them rather than being just behind.

OH BTW damn interesting discussion last couple of pages in this thread about the bikes etc cheers all!!

**onearmedbandit** · 6th July 2013, 12:52

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Humour yes. But it's the he's not a Primadonna bit that got me. He's more so than anyone I've ever seen in the sport. It's that that stops me being a total fan.

Biaggi anyone?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th July 2013, 13:17

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Biaggi anyone?

You got me there. Forgot about that lil homo.

**pritch** · 6th July 2013, 13:41

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Humour yes. But it's the he's not a Primadonna bit that got me. He's more so than anyone I've ever seen in the sport. It's that that stops me being a total fan.

Funny how we all see things differently. I've read a couple of recent quotes, one from I know not who, said that all of the GP riders were up themselves except Rossi and one other. (Crutchlow?)

In a recent issue of BIKE Murray Walker, retired long time commentator, says that there are a lot of real characters in the road racng scene but only one, Rossi, in GPs.

MW is way more qualified to comment than me but I stll disagree. I'd include Crutchlow. If being a grumpy little shit counts as character you'd have to include Pedro. And last weekend the formerly character free JL showed great strength of character.

Whatever turns your crank, we're all as different from one another as they are.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th July 2013, 13:54

Originally Posted by pritch

Funny how we all see things differently. I've read a couple of recent quotes, one from I know not who, said that all of the GP riders were up themselves except Rossi and one other. (Crutchlow?)

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Nah I totally agree that Rossi is one of the funniest guys around. I like the fact he uses the word fuck a lot too. But by primadonna I mean "whaaaaa...I want Bridgestones else I'm quitting" "Whaaaaa...I want a wall between Lorenzo and myself". He's copying my setup!!!" (Funny he had to copy Haydens Ducati setup to get faster, and now he's copying Lorenzo's Yamaha setup eh?) "Whaaaaaa Yamaha. Lorenzo's beaten me. It's either him or me next year!!!".

"Whaaaaa...this Ducati is shit...I want my Yamaha back!". That sort of Primadonna shit.

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 13:58

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Nah I totally agree that Rossi is one of the funniest guys around. I like the fact he uses the word fuck a lot too. But by primadonna I mean "whaaaaa...I want Bridgestones else I'm quitting" "Whaaaaa...I want a wall between Lorenzo and myself". He's copying my setup!!!" (Funny he had to copy Haydens Ducati setup to get faster, and now he's copying Lorenzo's Yamaha setup eh?) "Whaaaaaa Yamaha. Lorenzo's beaten me. It's either him or me next year!!!".

"Whaaaaa...this Ducati is shit...I want my Yamaha back!". That sort of Primadonna shit.

I think you'll find he couldn't make Lorenzo's setup work for him. Hense it took them so long to get the bike feeling the way he wanted.

And the Ducati is shit.

Other than that, I got nothing.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th July 2013, 13:59

Originally Posted by Drew

I think you'll find he couldn't make Lorenzo's setup work for him.

I think you'll find that that ain't right.

**pritch** · 6th July 2013, 14:29

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I think you'll find that that ain't right.

My reading indicates that Rossi's crew found a different front end setting during testing at Barcelona. The setup Lorenzo uses allows him to maximise corner speed. To achieve this the swing arm had been lengthened during Rossi's time with Ducati.

Rossi relies heavily on front end feel and he couldn't get it with "Lorenzo's" bike. I understand the new front end setting and a shorter swing arm made the difference at Assen, but we might all have a better idea of how well the changes worked after next weekend?

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 14:33

Originally Posted by pritch

My reading indicates that Rossi's crew found a different front end setting during testing at Barcelona. The setup Lorenzo uses allows him to maximise corner speed. To achieve this the swing arm had been lengthened during Rossi's time with Ducati.

Rossi relies heavily on front end feel and he couldn't get it with "Lorenzo's" bike. I understand the new front end setting and a shorter swing arm made the difference at Assen, but we might all have a better idea of how well the changes worked after next weekend?

This was my understanding too.

**GD66** · 6th July 2013, 14:37

I've always considered him an A-grade cunt. Befriended Gibernau then shat on him. Used the Italian press to complete his mind job on Biaggi. Totally dissed Lorenzo by demanding the wall in the garage. Shat on Honda. Shat on Michelin. Sucked the arse out of the Yamaha race budget first time round so they had to shut down their superbike programme. Raped the coffers at Ducati and achieved SFA apart from two years of mediocrity and a questionable development path. Has attracted a following of myopic F1-style yellow-clad followers who care nothing for any part of the sport apart from him and him alone. Has had a dwindling career prolonged by the corrupt Spanish wankers at Dorna who have never devised any alternative MotoGP marketing ploy for when he retires. And for a man in his thirties to still be carrying on as though he is a teenage cartoon character defies belief. The Doctor ? Give me a break...

Too harsh ?

**pritch** · 6th July 2013, 14:52

Originally Posted by GD66

I've always considered him an A-grade cunt. Befriended Gibernau then shat on him. Used the Italian press to complete his mind job on Biaggi. Totally dissed Lorenzo by demanding the wall in the garage. Shat on Honda. Shat on Michelin. Sucked the arse out of the Yamaha race budget first time round so they had to shut down their superbike programme. Raped the coffers at Ducati and achieved SFA apart from two years of mediocrity and a questionable development path. Has attracted a following of myopic F1-style yellow-clad followers who care nothing for any part of the sport apart from him and him alone. Has had a dwindling career prolonged by the corrupt Spanish wankers at Dorna who have never devised any alternative MotoGP marketing ploy for when he retires. And for a man in his thirties to still be carrying on as though he is a teenage cartoon character defies belief. The Doctor ? Give me a break...

Too harsh ?

You should post more often, you add a certain texture to the discussion.

**Oscar** · 6th July 2013, 14:55

Originally Posted by GD66

I've always considered him an A-grade cunt. Befriended Gibernau then shat on him. Used the Italian press to complete his mind job on Biaggi. Totally dissed Lorenzo by demanding the wall in the garage. Shat on Honda. Shat on Michelin. Sucked the arse out of the Yamaha race budget first time round so they had to shut down their superbike programme. Raped the coffers at Ducati and achieved SFA apart from two years of mediocrity and a questionable development path. Has attracted a following of myopic F1-style yellow-clad followers who care nothing for any part of the sport apart from him and him alone. Has had a dwindling career prolonged by the corrupt Spanish wankers at Dorna who have never devised any alternative MotoGP marketing ploy for when he retires. And for a man in his thirties to still be carrying on as though he is a teenage cartoon character defies belief. The Doctor ? Give me a break...

Too harsh ?

Wow.
I don't agree with much off it, but it was tremendously well put.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th July 2013, 15:03

Originally Posted by pritch

My reading indicates that Rossi's crew found a different front end setting during testing at Barcelona. The setup Lorenzo uses allows him to maximise corner speed. To achieve this the swing arm had been lengthened during Rossi's time with Ducati.

Rossi relies heavily on front end feel and he couldn't get it with "Lorenzo's" bike. I understand the new front end setting and a shorter swing arm made the difference at Assen, but we might all have a better idea of how well the changes worked after next weekend?

Originally Posted by Drew

This was my understanding too.

Then I stand corrected and I'm a retard. My bad. He's still a pratt though!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 6th July 2013, 15:04

Originally Posted by GD66

I've always considered him an A-grade cunt. Befriended Gibernau then shat on him. Used the Italian press to complete his mind job on Biaggi. Totally dissed Lorenzo by demanding the wall in the garage. Shat on Honda. Shat on Michelin. Sucked the arse out of the Yamaha race budget first time round so they had to shut down their superbike programme. Raped the coffers at Ducati and achieved SFA apart from two years of mediocrity and a questionable development path. Has attracted a following of myopic F1-style yellow-clad followers who care nothing for any part of the sport apart from him and him alone. Has had a dwindling career prolonged by the corrupt Spanish wankers at Dorna who have never devised any alternative MotoGP marketing ploy for when he retires. And for a man in his thirties to still be carrying on as though he is a teenage cartoon character defies belief. The Doctor ? Give me a break...

Too harsh ?

Far from it. Pretty fair really. I like you.

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 15:22

Originally Posted by GD66

I've always considered him an A-grade cunt. Befriended Gibernau then shat on him. Used the Italian press to complete his mind job on Biaggi. Totally dissed Lorenzo by demanding the wall in the garage. Shat on Honda. Shat on Michelin. Sucked the arse out of the Yamaha race budget first time round so they had to shut down their superbike programme. Raped the coffers at Ducati and achieved SFA apart from two years of mediocrity and a questionable development path. Has attracted a following of myopic F1-style yellow-clad followers who care nothing for any part of the sport apart from him and him alone. Has had a dwindling career prolonged by the corrupt Spanish wankers at Dorna who have never devised any alternative MotoGP marketing ploy for when he retires. And for a man in his thirties to still be carrying on as though he is a teenage cartoon character defies belief. The Doctor ? Give me a break...

Too harsh ?

The bit I have highlighted in bold, is the only bit I can't accept of your opinion.

Anyone wanna go do skids in a paddock on my tractor?