MotoGP 2013

[pritch]

Ducati has been criticised for failing to listen to a long line of riders, including Stoner and Rossi. Was it Caprirossi they sent to a shrink rather than listen to his criticism of the bike?

Milandri.

I think Stoner is testing the Honda because the normal test riders can't ride at 100% the pace of the aliens and can miss problems that only show at 100%. Once he setties in Stoner will be able to ride at 100%.

Apparently this time he was testing the current bike but future tests will involve the 2014 model.

Looks like Yamaha may have to wait until next year for their seamless gearbox. It needs different engine cases and they are already in engine trouble. Also following Rossi's stoppage there is a question mark over the reliabliity.

There was some discussion this morning about what Dorna permit and what they ban. BIKE pointed out a few years ago that there was nobody at Dorna that really understood bikes. Consequently their rules have tended to be of the knee jerk variety. The factories are busy developing technology that will probably never be used on road bikes, ie carbon brakes, seamless gearboxes. Technology that could be developed for road bikes: dual clutches, (apparently lighter and cheaper than a seamless gearbox), and electronically adjustable suspension, are banned.

[tail_end_charlie]

There was some discussion this morning about what Dorna permit and what they ban. BIKE pointed out a few years ago that there was nobody at Dorna that really understood bikes. Consequently their rules have tended to be of the knee jerk variety. The factories are busy developing technology that will probably never be used on road bikes, ie carbon brakes, seamless gearboxes. Technology that could be developed for road bikes: dual clutches, (apparently lighter and cheaper than a seamless gearbox), and electronically adjustable suspension, are banned.

Shorter way to say ^^^ ................ Dorna have their head up their ass.

[roogazza]

Milandri.
I think Stoner is testing the Honda because the normal test riders can't ride at 100% the pace of the aliens and can miss problems that only show at 100%. Once he setties in Stoner will be able to ride at 100%.
Apparently this time he was testing the current bike but future tests will involve the 2014 model.

Yeah Pritch, I believe Hondas top tester hurt himself and with Pedrosa on the mend they were short on top feedback ?
No times you'll notice and like Oscar said maybe Honda are dangling the carrot.
All stories I read say nothing has changed, he prefers fishing!

[steveyb]

Seemless gearboxes are already used in a range of Honda road bikes.
They are featured in BRM this month.
While it might not be exactly the same as the GP transmission, it is the same concept.
i.e.: twin clutches to allow pre-selection of next gear so that shifting is almost instantaneous.
Also used in VW Golf.

[Oscar]

There was some discussion this morning about what Dorna permit and what they ban. BIKE pointed out a few years ago that there was nobody at Dorna that really understood bikes. Consequently their rules have tended to be of the knee jerk variety. The factories are busy developing technology that will probably never be used on road bikes, ie carbon brakes, seamless gearboxes. Technology that could be developed for road bikes: dual clutches, (apparently lighter and cheaper than a seamless gearbox), and electronically adjustable suspension, are banned.

When was the last time you saw a four cylinder two stroke for sale?
A bike with oval pistons?
Some of the great things in racing have been technological dead ends.

I think it's BIKE that doesn't understand GP racing.

[Mental Trousers]

While it might not be exactly the same as the GP transmission, it is the same concept.
i.e.: twin clutches to allow pre-selection of next gear so that shifting is almost instantaneous.
Also used in VW Golf.

Twin clutch gearboxes are banned in MotoGP. VisorDown have an article on the Honda gearbox

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ned/17679.html

[yod]

Yeah Pritch, I believe Hondas top tester hurt himself and with Pedrosa on the mend they were short on top feedback ?
No times you'll notice and like Oscar said maybe Honda are dangling the carrot.
All stories I read say nothing has changed, he prefers fishing!

Sounds like he stills loves caning the snot out of the fastest bikes on the planet too - just not in the middle of a travelling circus. Nice work if you can get it.

[BMWST?]

stoner testing the bike makes it legal testing too i think.because he is not a motogp rider they can test as much as they like?Thats big big advantage there having a top rider being able to see how the bike goes.

[merv]

You can see in that video how animated he is describing what was going on and how attentive Nakamoto and his boys are to Stoner.

[BMWST?]

You can see in that video how animated he is describing what was going on and how attentive Nakamoto and his boys are to Stoner.

He always seemed quite animated when giving feedback to the pit crew


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[steveyb]

Twin clutch gearboxes are banned in MotoGP. VisorDown have an article on the Honda gearbox

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ned/17679.html

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

[Cleve]

Oh, and there’s some footage of CS27 testing at Motegi here.

Lovely. Thanks for that. Oh the NOISE!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lovely. Thanks for that. Oh the NOISE!!

I reckon. They sound angry as hell eh.

[steveyb]

Two observations:
CS still drags his boots along the ground as he goes down pitlane
The old school mechanic warming up the 213V without any ear-plugs or muffs. What a mug.
When you have been right next to them in the pits (like I have, yeah!) they can hurt your ears.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Two observations:
CS still drags his boots along the ground as he goes down pitlane
The old school mechanic warming up the 213V without any ear-plugs or muffs. What a mug.
When you have been right next to them in the pits (like I have, yeah!) they can hurt your ears.

They sure as fuck do. Hurt like hell even a bit further away.