MotoGP 2013

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 11:21

Originally Posted by Oscar

Do you think any of this new crop could maintain a 10 second lead after a penalty (or even figure out that they had one, based on what was on their board)?
For most of his career I don't think Vale had to ride at 10/10ths on a regular basis.

Dunno. May find out one day. And as I've said before...he prob didn't have to ride 10/10ths to beat up on the Gibernau's of the world. Was a very diff story once Stoner and Lorenzo turned up. Now MM as well. Are we goona blame his age...or the tyres or what Oscar? Maybe it's time to finally admit that there are actually people out there that are simply faster that he is? Actually nah...that's not your style!

**Oscar** · 26th August 2013, 11:29

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Dunno. May find out one day. And as I've said before...he prob didn't have to ride 10/10ths to beat up on the Gibernau's of the world. Was a very diff story once Stoner and Lorenzo turned up. Now MM as well. Are we goona blame his age...or the tyres or what Oscar? Maybe it's time to finally admit that there are actually people out there that are simply faster that he is? Actually nah...that's not your style!

Still smarting from saying he'd never win another race?
Lorenzo (last turn at Barcelona) and Stoner (brake checked at LS) both took turns at being his bitch...

Meantime, you're agreeing with my post - you can't compare a 37 year old Vale with a 23 year old MM.

**roogazza** · 26th August 2013, 11:30

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Mate...he's still a God. Just one a lil past his prime. And I don't know that he has ever been quite as fast as the new crew. Stats show not.

I see he's only 26 points off Horhay now, so a bit of a hiccup and some more 3rds and fourths ???????
The 3 Amigos is a tuff ask !
But I still think Crutchless is either doin good matching them every now and then,or on his arse. He'll finish the year as maybe 5th !

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 11:39

Originally Posted by Oscar

Still smarting from saying he'd never win another race?
Lorenzo (last turn at Barcelona) and Stoner (brake checked at LS) both took turns at being his bitch...

Meantime, you're agreeing with my post - you can't compare a 37 year old Vale with a 23 year old MM.

Bet ya you can't show me anywhere I said that. Another title sure. Think your love for him surpasses mine for Stoner Old Boy. You're getting a bit worked up there! Couldn't comapre a younger one to Stoner either. You could just never admit it.

**Oscar** · 26th August 2013, 11:47

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Bet ya you can't show me anywhere I said that. Another title sure. Think your love for him surpasses mine for Stoner Old Boy. You're getting a bit worked up there! Couldn't comapre a younger one to Stoner either. You could just never admit it.

The only thing that I lurv here is the fishing.
Any ole stinky bait, and WHAM!
I wish the snapper bit like you...

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 11:50

Originally Posted by Oscar

The only thing that I lurv here is the fishing.
Any ole stinky bait, and WHAM!
I wish the snapper bit like you...

I could say the same. But it's a bit tired. Like Rossi!

**pritch** · 26th August 2013, 13:21

Both Lorenzo and Rossi say that the Yamaha is not currently able to compete on equal terms with the Honda. Parhaps Yamaha are missing Masao Furusawa?

If that's not bad enough, Yamaha are already in engine trouble and the Honda riders are only on their third engine, two fresh ones to go.

Unless something unforseen happens it's hard to see Lorenzo defending his title, it's also hard to see Pedro regularly beating MM so it would seem we are going to see the record books rewritten.

I should have picked MM in my fantasy league team; he wouldn't have stood a chance.

As for Rossi riding ten tenths: back in his Honda days he regularly used to ride around in second and then about three laps from the finish he would overtake the leader and disappear into the distance. To that point he had just been in cruise mode. There have been times when he has been at maximum effort, as in Qatar the time he was penalised for cleaning his grid position and had to start from the back.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 13:31

Originally Posted by pritch

Both Lorenzo and Rossi say that the Yamaha is not currently able to compete on equal terms with the Honda. back.

Funny that. I actually thought this weekend the Yamaha looked every bit as quick as the Honda in a straight line.

**badlieutenant** · 26th August 2013, 14:37

After Rossi's terrible run with the ducati I would have thought it would pay for him to return to claim the throne on a honda. He might have to suk up a bit of pride but a wins a win. It would be interesting to swap MM, Rossi and their bikes. Too late for Rossi to make a come back (next year included) ?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 14:48

Originally Posted by badlieutenant

After Rossi's terrible run with the ducati I would have thought it would pay for him to return to claim the throne on a honda. He might have to suk up a bit of pride but a wins a win. It would be interesting to swap MM, Rossi and their bikes. Too late for Rossi to make a come back (next year included) ?

Seeing as he can't actually beat his own team mate on the exact same bike...I don't think anything would be diff on a Honda mate.

**badlieutenant** · 26th August 2013, 15:19

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Seeing as he can't actually beat his own team mate on the exact same bike...I don't think anything would be diff on a Honda mate.

It just seemed to me that to win on the yamaha you were the shiz at set up. Which all of the current crop are. But with the honda they always have the pace (most tracks) so it might make it easier to get back at the front. Just wishful thinking on Rossis behalf more than anything. If everyone is equal in talent then any advantage should be sought. And MM has talent to spare............

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th August 2013, 15:27

Originally Posted by badlieutenant

. And MM has talent to spare............

Prob enough even to scare Stoner out of making a comeback...

**yod** · 26th August 2013, 16:16

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Prob enough even to scare Stoner out of making a comeback...

yeaaaah riiiight

Bet he'd love nothing more than to have a fang round PI against MM!!

it'd be the trailing circus that would scare him into not doing it!

**badlieutenant** · 26th August 2013, 16:39

just watched the race. Season is not over but it kinda looks like it is :/ for MM not to win the championship it looks like its up to MM not to make any mistakes, just keep on having fun ...