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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I was wondering about that, I knew you weren't his biggest fan but... .
    Yeah but I dodn't let that get in the way of rating his skills. I think MM is a little areshole too...but I sure as hell rate him. Think you're right about Crutchlow, Bradle and Bautista having some good scraps. I'm not thinking anyone but Hayden will get the Ducati to work. But I'd love to be wrong about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah but I dodn't let that get in the way of rating his skills. I think MM is a little areshole too...but I sure as hell rate him. Think you're right about Crutchlow, Bradle and Bautista having some good scraps. I'm not thinking anyone but Hayden will get the Ducati to work. But I'd love to be wrong about that.
    I don't believe that Audi will let Ducati fail so publicly.
    Either the Ducati will work in the next season or two or it will be gone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Either the Ducati will work in the next season or two or it will be gone...
    Which would be a crying shame.

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    2013 Picks

    1. Lorenzo
    2. Pedrosa
    3. Rossi
    4. Marquez

    .....gap.....

    5. Crutchlow
    6. Bradle
    7. Hayden
    8. Bautista
    9. Spies
    10. Dovi
    11. Bradley
    12. Crazy Joe
    13 - whatever. CRTs

    Best CRT gap during qualifying last year was Randy at 1.6s of the top qualifying time. Normally top CRT through the season was 2s down on top qualifying time. Maybe we'll see the gap lessen a bit this year, say down to 1.5s. And more CRTs battling for the top of the sub-class. (Not that CFWB cares of course.)

    And I agree with BMWST? on his comments about finding those last tenths that MM will need. I suspect it'll be a battle between Pedrosa and Lorenzo for the title, followed closely by MM and Rossi, with each pair battling it out. Then a bit of a gap, then another good battle between Cal, Bradle, Bautista, Hayden, Spies and Dovi. Can't really expect much out of the Ducs because they are more or less the same as last year and are going to be spending some time getting acquainted with where the bikes at (back of the grid), why its there (can't turn), and work thoroughly to fix the problem (bring back the '06 Duc 990 and do better).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I don't believe that Audi will let Ducati fail so publicly.
    Either the Ducati will work in the next season or two or it will be gone...

    not sure that audi can do anything about it.I feel that ducati may not actually know how to get what they need .And i am not sure that audi can actually help them with that.Its a wee bit of a black art these Motogp bikesDont forget that Yamaha and Honda have been at the pointy end of this game for a LONG LONG time.I will also be interested in how Dov does.I think he has a real talent for getting a good race set up/Will be interesting to see if he can find a set up that will last through a whole race better than NH

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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    Can't really expect much out of the Ducs because they are more or less the same as last year and are going to be spending some time getting acquainted with where the bikes at (back of the grid), why its there (can't turn), and work thoroughly to fix the problem (bring back the '06 Duc 990 and do better).
    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    not sure that audi can do anything about it.I feel that ducati may not actually know how to get what they need .And i am not sure that audi can actually help them with that.Its a wee bit of a black art these Motogp bikesDont forget that Yamaha and Honda have been at the pointy end of this game for a LONG LONG time.I will also be interested in how Dov does.I think he has a real talent for getting a good race set up/Will be interesting to see if he can find a set up that will last through a whole race better than NH
    Audi have already taken the main step to improving the Ducati's, they've moved Preziosi sideways. The guy is a genius engineer, but he's also the reason the Ducati's still have the L90 four cylinder and the very aggressive delivery. He wanted to continue with the L90 when it should've been redesigned to a different configuration. The power delivery is so aggressive because he wanted the engine making maximum power, not rider and tyre friendly (which is why Nicky would go great guns for the first part of the race then fade horribly).

    They've put guys in place that will get things sorted.

    Audi are also extremely good with rapid prototyping and development work. They can get revised/updated bits quicker and easier than Ducati ever could (the time Rossi was with them being the exception). So instead of riding the same bike for the entire season as has been the case so far, Audi are able to help Ducati develop updated parts much quicker.

    The thing that disappoints me about Audi and Preziosi being moved out of the MotoGP team is all of the creative flair is gone. Audi will steer things along the course they're on now - an aluminium perimeter frame probably with a narrow angle V four, which is a real shame. Since they switched to the perimeter frame they're not that much better off than they were with the monocoque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Check out the camel toe on the brunette in the last pic...
    You always spot the good stuff huh!
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    I don't know if the CRT will get any closer this year. If the rule makers don't stuff Honda up by changing weight limits and tyres again after the start of the season testing and the bike already being designed and built like they did last year I see them being even more potent under Pedro and MM.

    I was surprised that Nakamoto was so gracious in accepting that shit so it seemed http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/2...huhei+Nakamoto
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    Rossi seems to be gaining confidence and is anticipating lots of podium finishes and hoping for some wins. Not really new 'news' there, we always knew he would be confident when returning to Yamaha. What I like, though, is the last bit of the article:

    "Since we are already well and good into the realm of pre-season hysteria, what follows is a suggestion that borders on the insane: but what if--and this is perhaps the biggest what if currently in MotoGP--a Ducati finishes in front of Rossi in one of his first races back as a Yamaha rider?"

    If that actually happens, I would literally ROTFLOL at the irony of the whole situation. I wouldn't even spare the time to feel sorry for the old bugger. In saying that, I do hope he does well, and that MM doesn't tumble him into the kitty litter............
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    Sounds to me like an Epic Fail.

    The impression I've got is that all the CRT teams are sitting around on the floor of the garages at Sepang, surrounded by Magneti Marelli branded packaging, reading the installation instructions, and trying to figure out how to wire/install the spec ECU's. Meanwhile, some guy on a laptop in the back is furiously trying to input 15,000 or so values into the software programing for the Traction Control, Launch Control, Wheelie Control, MP3 playlists, Fueling maps, Display functions, GPS coordinates, Detailed strike packages, Engine Specs, Atmospheric specs, Porn site url's, ect ect ect.

    Talk about a SNAFU. Shit man. All that CEII was able to do was confirm that the FTR Kawasaki runs and burns petrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    Sounds to me like an Epic Fail.

    The impression I've got is that all the CRT teams are sitting around on the floor of the garages at Sepang, surrounded by Magneti Marelli branded packaging, reading the installation instructions, and trying to figure out how to wire/install the spec ECU's. Meanwhile, some guy on a laptop in the back is furiously trying to input 15,000 or so values into the software programing for the Traction Control, Launch Control, Wheelie Control, MP3 playlists, Fueling maps, Display functions, GPS coordinates, Detailed strike packages, Engine Specs, Atmospheric specs, Porn site url's, ect ect ect.

    Talk about a SNAFU. Shit man. All that CEII was able to do was confirm that the FTR Kawasaki runs and burns petrol.
    Does anyone else get the feeling that it won't be long before we are saying "MotoGP aint what it used to be" - with a whole lot of truth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by denill View Post
    Does anyone else get the feeling that it won't be long before we are saying "MotoGP aint what it used to be" - with a whole lot of truth?
    Alright, well I'm going to try and change my lifestyle here and become a optimist. We have to look at the fact that this year will be better than last year because the CRT catagory will be closer to the prototypes. Yes, the prototypes will get better as well, but the CRT bikes should be able to make a larger jump in performance because last year they were all new and starting off with out any data. This year they will be closer at the start of the season because they have all the data and setup from last year.......................................oh wait.............................................. ...........they don't. Yeah, I guess their fucked.
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    To be expected. I'd be surprised if the riders bothered to turn up. Leave the techies alone with things for a couple of days and then see if the thing makes it past pit exit.
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    They have all their data from last year. The data isn't showing how the ECU performed, it's showing how the suspension, engine etc were doing. Those things haven't changed, just the shit that controls it. The problem is figuring out how the data relates to the new control unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    They have all their data from last year. The data isn't showing how the ECU performed, it's showing how the suspension, engine etc were doing. Those things haven't changed, just the shit that controls it. The problem is figuring out how the data relates to the new control unit.
    What OS do they use ? Might have a job for me if its VMS or Linux
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