MotoGP 2013

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So did Suzuki when they first released the TL1000. Pity some docile saki soaked Nip got his way regarding the rear rotary damper unit.

That P Head Gobert made it go Ok in one of those funny italian units aye (was wet tho). God that guy could ride......

[Crasherfromwayback]

That P Head Gobert made it go Ok in one of those funny italian units aye (was wet tho). God that guy could ride......

Yeah he was a fucking weapon eh! Stoner and MM rolled into one. Pity he was such a fucking tossbag. And he was from a very young age.

[Drew]

That P Head Gobert made it go Ok in one of those funny italian units aye (was wet tho). God that guy could ride......

Yeah he was a fucking weapon eh! Stoner and MM rolled into one. Pity he was such a fucking tossbag. And he was from a very young age.

Who was the dude that worked the Kawassaki for them? Muzzy?

His words about Gobert were boss. That kid has got more talent and feel for a bike than anyone I've ever seen. Pity he won't listen to anybody.

Not verbatum, I have a shit memory, but that was the gist.

[merv]

a 90 degree V is an L

Why don't you visten lery much and did no one teach you the avphbet. V and L are not the same letter. Ducati laid the v on its side and it itself refers to L engines and caused the problem of the long engine with the drive point too far back. We all know the 90 degrees wasn't a problem.

[denill]

Yeah he was a fucking weapon eh! Stoner and MM rolled into one. Pity he was such a fucking tossbag. And he was from a very young age.

Gobert: Yeah, there are not many who wouldn't agree that if he wasn't such a dope head his name would have been linked with the Doohans and Raineys et al.

I followed his ups and downs just willing him to get sorted, because he such a talent

[slowpoke]

Especially the new one...With ALL the failed technology from the early GP bike.

Good work Ducati, you are only slightly brighter than your die hard faithful clients.

Good work? It's fuckin' brilliant! Look at all those stoopid japs and jermans making redundant frames and reducing profit margins. Realistically, unless your last name is Checa there's fuck all us mere mortals can do that an 1199 can't.

I guess you've got a point in relation to Honda and Yamaha who have brought so much GP tech to the streets eh? The awesome V4 CBR with all that MotoGP evolved electrickery and that R1, all lithe and lovely making mega horsepower......except the CBR is the lowest tech IL4 on the market today, and the R1 is similarly low tech with the added "bonus" of being a porky heap of shit that doesn't actually make enough horsepower to need the big bang donk.

[codgyoleracer]

Especially the new one...With ALL the failed technology from the early GP bike.

Good work Ducati, you are only slightly brighter than your die hard faithful clients.

The latest one is the bravest step i have seen by a mass producer of road going motorcycles for a long long time, and after cutting 100+ laps on one or two of em at a race track I can confirm that they are a very very capable motorcycle.

[DidJit]

Test pics: RdP on the Suzuki...

[denill]

The latest one is the bravest step i have seen by a mass producer of road going motorcycles for a long long time, and after cutting 100+ laps on one or two of em at a race track I can confirm that they are a very very capable motorcycle.

And if Glen Williams says that, I believe it.

[BMWST?]

Why don't you visten lery much and did no one teach you the avphbet. V and L are not the same letter. Ducati laid the v on its side and it itself refers to L engines and caused the problem of the long engine with the drive point too far back. We all know the 90 degrees wasn't a problem.

so why does eLeryone keep referring to the 90 deg as being the probVem?As you say its the consequence of having the gearbox in the same plane as the conrod of the "front" cylinder

[Drew]

Good work? It's fuckin' brilliant! Look at all those stoopid japs and jermans making redundant frames and reducing profit margins. Realistically, unless your last name is Checa there's fuck all us mere mortals can do that an 1199 can't.

I guess you've got a point in relation to Honda and Yamaha who have brought so much GP tech to the streets eh? The awesome V4 CBR with all that MotoGP evolved electrickery and that R1, all lithe and lovely making mega horsepower......except the CBR is the lowest tech IL4 on the market today, and the R1 is similarly low tech with the added "bonus" of being a porky heap of shit that doesn't actually make enough horsepower to need the big bang donk.

This thread hardly portains to mere mortals such as us though does it? Mounting the head stock to the front of the motor, and the rear half to the back was tried at GP level. It didn't work very well for whatever reason, so why would they take their superbike in that direction? Seems like a shit load of R&D they could do without.

GP is prototype racing. It takes a long time I'll grant you, but the tech filters down to our bikes. Be nice if it was just the best bits instead of the failures. Ride a BMW S1000R some time.

Ducati are boutique motorcycles I have always thought.

The latest one is the bravest step i have seen by a mass producer of road going motorcycles for a long long time, and after cutting 100+ laps on one or two of em at a race track I can confirm that they are a very very capable motorcycle.

It's bold alright. And nearly everyone I know loves the thing. Except for one guy that owns one, and leaves it in the shed and takes his CBR out for spirited road rides, while commuting on the Duc.

Please don't think I'm being nasty Glen, but if Craig/Strouud/Choppa/Cole said they were great I'd believe it, since our superbike rules are very restrictive compared to WSB. So it's an indication how a road bike goes. But your success on a big block was a tad limited.

I would likely find the bike as you have, maybe better, you're a shit load faster than I am after all. But from the evidence of what the bike is doing at world level, I think as the speeds climb, it comes unstuck.

Back on topic...

I firmly believe, the only reason the Ducati ever got a top spot was Stoner. The other bike from the team got it's arse handed to it more often than not, and everyone else on it the same since. In those early years the bike was often 10+kph faster than everything else, and unrideable. Has anyone but Stoner ever one a race on a Ducati GP?

The more I think about it, the more I see what Pete has been getting at all this time. The guy really was several classes above the rest...Rossi included. Pity he's a dick.

[codgyoleracer]

This thread hardly portains to mere mortals such as us though does it? Mounting the head stock to the front of the motor, and the rear half to the back was tried at GP level. It didn't work very well for whatever reason, so why would they take their superbike in that direction? Seems like a shit load of R&D they could do without.

GP is prototype racing. It takes a long time I'll grant you, but the tech filters down to our bikes. Be nice if it was just the best bits instead of the failures. Ride a BMW S1000R some time.

Ducati are boutique motorcycles I have always thought.

It's bold alright. And nearly everyone I know loves the thing. Except for one guy that owns one, and leaves it in the shed and takes his CBR out for spirited road rides, while commuting on the Duc.

Please don't think I'm being nasty Glen, but if Craig/Strouud/Choppa/Cole said they were great I'd believe it, since our superbike rules are very restrictive compared to WSB. So it's an indication how a road bike goes. But your success on a big block was a tad limited.

I would likely find the bike as you have, maybe better, you're a shit load faster than I am after all. But from the evidence of what the bike is doing at world level, I think as the speeds climb, it comes unstuck.

Back on topic...

I firmly believe, the only reason the Ducati ever got a top spot was Stoner. The other bike from the team got it's arse handed to it more often than not, and everyone else on it the same since. In those early years the bike was often 10+kph faster than everything else, and unrideable. Has anyone but Stoner ever one a race on a Ducati GP?

The more I think about it, the more I see what Pete has been getting at all this time. The guy really was several classes above the rest...Rossi included. Pity he's a dick.

So, Because Checca cant win (in his injured state and with restictors fitted) the bike is crap. And because a bunch of slow kiwis arent racing them the bike is crap ?................
Everyone knows the Pani aint got the hp, remembering that it needs 20hp more in stock trim just to be near a stock Beemer......
The reason for my post was the bike is the ONLY machine that the manufacturer has had the balls to redesign and take to the world market using its in-house GP development work.
It is a huge leap forward for Ducati (and a dangerous one too),,,,,,,,, On the plus side though its selling in a massive scale worldwide, so i guess they got something right aye?

I agree on your mates CBR1000 antics, the problem though is a that the only part his street CBR1000 has on it that came from HRC race dept, is the sticker saying "HRC" on the side.

[sugilite:Me]

Has anyone but Stoner ever one a race on a Ducati GP?

Bayliss and Caparossi did. Bayliss did it on a one off wild card ride on the last race of the year when all the regulars were well in the groove!

[codgyoleracer]

Bayliss and Caparossi did. Bayliss did it on a one off wild card ride on the last race of the year when all the regulars were well in the groove!

Yeah thats true, that Bayliss agressivness also suited the bike it seemed aye.

[denill]

The more I think about it, the more I see what Pete has been getting at all this time. The guy really was several classes above the rest...Rossi included. Pity he's a dick.

So Rossi's a dick?