MotoGP 2013

**eelracing** · 21st October 2013, 11:59

Regardless of the poofery that brought about the 10 lap swapping of bikes...we was robbed.
What was shaping up to be a battle that would of rivalled Wayne Gardners epic wins at PI was ruined.
There is no doubt in my mind that a rider of Marquez's class(and sheer balls) would of gone on and won shagged tyres or not.
What a sham.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st October 2013, 12:05

Originally Posted by eelracing

There is no doubt in my mind that a rider of Marquez's class(and sheer balls) would of gone on and won shagged tyres or not.
What a sham.

And so say all of us!

**Drew** · 21st October 2013, 13:21

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

And so say all of us!

I don't.

Bridgestone fucked up. Dorna made a stop gap call (right or wrong). Riders and teams tried to work with it.

That a fuck up happened, is hardly surprising. I honestly expected it to be on pit entry. Thought we were gonna see someone commit to it too fast and then watch their bike slide across the grass to meet other riders as they came onto the front straight. She's a narrow bit of tarmac right there, and it's not half as grippy as the rest of the track.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st October 2013, 13:44

Originally Posted by Drew

Bridgestone fucked up. Dorna made a stop gap call (right or wrong). Riders and teams tried to work with it.

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Bout time the single tyre supplier rule went in the bin.

**pritch** · 21st October 2013, 13:58

There is a free video clip @ the MotoGP web site which depicts considerable consternation among the Honda pit crew as they realise he has failed to stop. Alas, one viewing doesn't explain the cause. There is also some pique shown by MM in reaction to being advised the reason for his disqualification. Nice to know he's human.

It isn't all bad news for HRC, MM might win the title at Motegi in front of the assembled Honda board members?

Someone questioned how a crew would signal that a rider had to drop a place. All crews should have a plan for that, it's not uncommon - has happened several times in WSBK this year IIRC.

**Danger Dave** · 21st October 2013, 14:06

Originally Posted by Drew

I don't.

Bridgestone fucked up. Dorna made a stop gap call (right or wrong). Riders and teams tried to work with it.

That a fuck up happened, is hardly surprising. I honestly expected it to be on pit entry. Thought we were gonna see someone commit to it too fast and then watch their bike slide across the grass to meet other riders as they came onto the front straight. She's a narrow bit of tarmac right there, and it's not half as grippy as the rest of the track.

Everyone is quick to blame Bridgestone and seem to have forgotten that Dunlop are in the same boat, the moto 2 race was shortend to basically half distance and i'm sure that if the moto 2 teams were allowed a second bike then they would of had pit stops as well.

**pritch** · 21st October 2013, 14:14

I see there is another clip on the MotoGP site in which MM says he was working to the plan, there was confusion, the team thought he could stop on that lap. He says there was no problem with the pit board.

Not sure if that video is free.

As usual David Emmett sums it all up beautifully on his Motomatters site. He uses the word omnishambles, a good choice. The word clusterfuck would apply equally.

**Drew** · 21st October 2013, 17:22

Originally Posted by Danger Dave

Everyone is quick to blame Bridgestone and seem to have forgotten that Dunlop are in the same boat, the moto 2 race was shortend to basically half distance and i'm sure that if the moto 2 teams were allowed a second bike then they would of had pit stops as well.

I understand your point of view. But the tyres weren't up to the task at the end of the day. I didn't know Dunlop had issues too, but the story is the same. They fucked up.

**pritch** · 21st October 2013, 17:54

Originally Posted by Drew

But the tyres weren't up to the task at the end of the day.

Free clip: http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2013...r+in+Australia

Check out the tyre that came off MM's bike after eleven laps as shown in that video. Scary!

You can see why Bridgestone stipulated no more than ten laps.

**Cam_Valk** · 21st October 2013, 19:44

I have read elsewhere that Brigdestone and Dunlop were not allowed to test due to a cut in private testing weekends.

**speights_bud** · 21st October 2013, 20:06

Went for a tootle down to Park Ferme' yesterday. (Tyres are Jorge's)

**Mental Trousers** · 21st October 2013, 20:17

Originally Posted by Drew

I understand your point of view. But the tyres weren't up to the task at the end of the day. I didn't know Dunlop had issues too, but the story is the same. They fucked up.

Pirelli had problems in the WSBK races at Phillip Island too.

**BMWST?** · 21st October 2013, 20:18

i dont have a problem with the factt hat MM was penalised for breaking the rules...i just dont understand why it was a disqualification and not a ride through.They had already decided that if you came in earlier you were to to come in again..why not the same thing for coming in late.

**BMWST?** · 21st October 2013, 20:34

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

And there you have it. Bradl out, MM black flagged, and he still can't do it. Put those two back in it...and he's his usual 8th. And I still don't think he's worthy of the seat.

He is gonna smash cal cruthlows equivalent point score of 2011.Whats wrong with you sad sacks.Not every motgp rider is a Casey Stoner,Jorge Lorenzo or Mark Marquez.Why would you put Nicky haden on that bike.Ben Spies maybe,but he had that seat once.Those seats are for new riders.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st October 2013, 20:39

Originally Posted by BMWST?

He is gonna smash cal cruthlows equivalent point score of 2011.Whats wrong with you sad sacks.Not every motgp rider is a Casey Stoner,Jorge Lorenzo or Mark Marquez.s.

I know that. But it's not like he's running amongst the also rans is it now? Seriously...what has he done to deserve the seat mate?