MotoGP 2013

[imdying]

Weird...but I just can't get excited about Superbikes anymore. Back in the Foggy/Russell/Polen/Slighty/Gobert/Bayliss/Edwards days for sure. But now...nah.

I get that... the racing is good, but production based bikes don't interest me in the slightest.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That surprises me. The racing is SOOOO much better. The manufacturers are better represented, (Ducati still performs about the same though), and there's plenty O tustling right through the field.

Sorry. Can't agree. And besides...as I've said many times...I'd rather watch a gp bike going round a track at warp factor nine on it's own than a bunch of Superbikes playing together.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Apologising??? Jeez, you're getting soft Pete, lol

Lol. Fuck off! Better?

[Drew]

Sorry. Can't agree. And besides...as I've said many times...I'd rather watch a gp bike going round a track at warp factor nine on it's own than a bunch of Superbikes playing together.

Define "warp factor nine" for me mate.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/811/15...s--MotoGP.aspx

Looks to me, like there's fuck all in it. Except of course, for the WSBikes bucking and trying to kill the riders...a bit like you have said many times you enjoyed watchin the 500s do.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Define "warp factor nine" for me mate.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/811/15...s--MotoGP.aspx

Looks to me, like there's fuck all in it. Except of course, for the WSBikes bucking and trying to kill the riders...a bit like you have said many times you enjoyed watchin the 500s do.

Hate to say it again mate...but get back to me when you've actually been to a GP. And Superbikes have always been close to GP bikes lap time wise at certain tracks. Hell...Steve Hislop beat Rossi's outright lap record at Donington years ago on his Ducati superbike. Hardly anything new there. But until you see a Moto GP bike at full chat you ain't seen nothin. When I see a superbike go through turn 3 at PI at 265kph on the lockstops laying a large rubber blackie I might get a bit excited about them. Until then...stick 'em up your arse.

[pritch]

I watch both SBK and GPs and have been to both. There was a big gap between Fred Merkel and Casey Stoner though so there is nothing with which to form a meaningful comparison. Since SKY decided to show BSB this year I watched that too; the bikes are down-spec but the racing is brilliant.

SBK is much more casual, if you've got the right ticket you get to mingle with the riders. The GP riders are not so readily available. At Phillip Island it seems you can ride around the outside of the track on your bike to get from place to place at Superbikes. At GPs that road is closed for emergency vehicles only.

They're all much betterer than watching another episode of Downton Abbey anyway.

Rossi has said he hopes the mechanics will stay. I have to check Gabbarini's CV as the Twitterati seem to think he's the man. Although Yamaha say several are being considered - no names at this stage.

[Drew]

Hate to say it again mate...but get back to me when you've actually been to a GP. And Superbikes have always been close to GP bikes lap time wise at certain tracks. Hell...Steve Hislop beat Rossi's outright lap record at Donington years ago on his Ducati superbike. Hardly anything new there. But until you see a Moto GP bike at full chat you ain't seen nothin. When I see a superbike go through turn 3 at PI at 265kph on the lockstops laying a large rubber blackie I might get a bit excited about them. Until then...stick 'em up your arse.

WatchootalkinboutWillis? I've been to a GP.

It's all academic of course, we are neither of us likely to change the others opinion. I just don't figure there's a huge gap between the bikes or the skill to ride them.

We might both agree though, that there should be a substantial gap between the disciplines and their machinery. I think the rules are choking the living shit out of what would be on track if it were a true prototype class of racing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

WatchootalkinboutWillis? I've been to a GP.

It's all academic of course, we are neither of us likely to change the others opinion. I just don't figure there's a huge gap between the bikes or the skill to ride them.

.

Have ya? Forgot that. Maybe you slept through the big boys race then! The gap is huge sorry. I rode a KR1SP. Massive alloy beam frame...huge 320mm floating discs with large 4 piston calipers...fucking awesome production bike. Then rode an RS250. Massive alloy frame...huge 320mm disc rotors with large 4 piston calipers. Both 250cc two strokes. Pretty similar right? No. There's a very good reason why a LOT of superbike guys don't make the transition to GP bikes mate...they're chalk and cheese trust me. Another reason I admire the GP boys so much more. Look what Spies did to them on a Superbike. But he never really made the grade on a GP bike. How's MM? The REAL good cunts will race anything to the front. And they're all in GP racing for a reason. It's still where it's at talent wise.

[actungbaby]

Have ya? Forgot that. Maybe you slept through the big boys race then! The gap is huge sorry. I rode a KR1SP. Massive alloy beam frame...huge 320mm floating discs with large 4 piston calipers...fucking awesome production bike. Then rode an RS250. Massive alloy frame...huge 320mm disc rotors with large 4 piston calipers. Both 250cc two strokes. Pretty similar right? No. There's a very good reason why a LOT of superbike guys don't make the transition to GP bikes mate...they're chalk and cheese trust me. Another reason I admire the GP boys so much more. Look what Spies did to them on a Superbike. But he never really made the grade on a GP bike. How's MM? The REAL good cunts will race anything to the front. And they're all in GP racing for a reason. It's still where it's at talent wise.

Yes those Kr 250 where good bikes where they . what you guys think

Of rossi getting new crew chief wonder who he get . seems shame jermey burguss

alot exp there i read where said he retire fter rossi retired so not sure if he go to another

team or not .

what was about the rs 250 was they way engine picked up revs seems factory racing

engine always going be better because doesint have to work as road legal bike engine.

[pritch]

The JB sacking still dominates the news. Azi Farni (BBC) and others feel JB should have been treated with more respect. The timing was dictated by a leak to an Italian website. Rossi blames some "fucking journalist". But the leak originated in Tavullia so is the blame belongs closer to home.

Rossi is adamant that he can still compete on equal terms with DP MM & JL. Consensus in the paddock is that he can't. One pundit says we'll know by this time next year. We'll know long before that.

Meanwhile back with the bikes: the turn 13 slow motion shots are definitely worth checking out - if you have paid for access.

[denill]

The JB sacking still dominates the news. Azi Farni (BBC) and others feel JB should have been treated with more respect. The timing was dictated by a leak to an Italian website. Rossi blames some "fucking journalist". But the leak originated in Tavullia so is the blame belongs closer to home.

An interesting poll:

[denill]

What's that?

[carbonhed]

Marquez through turn 13 'kinell.

[BMWST?]

1	93	Marc MARQUEZ	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	326.8	1'31.220
2	26	Dani PEDROSA	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	328.3	1'31.286	0.066 / 0.066
3	99	Jorge LORENZO	SPA	Yamaha Factory Racing	Yamaha	322.7	1'31.378	0.158 / 0.092
4	35	Cal CRUTCHLOW	GBR	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	323.7	1'31.502	0.282 / 0.124
5	46	Valentino ROSSI	ITA	Yamaha Factory Racing	Yamaha	322.1	1'31.639	0.419 / 0.137
6	6	Stefan BRADL	GER	LCR Honda MotoGP	Honda	326.2	1'31.858	0.638 / 0.219
7	19	Alvaro BAUTISTA	SPA	GO&FUN Honda Gresini	Honda	325.3	1'31.873	0.653 / 0.015
8	38	Bradley SMITH	GBR	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	320.7	1'31.984	0.764 / 0.111
9	4	Andrea DOVIZIOSO	ITA	Ducati Team	Ducati	321.1	1'32.363	1.143 / 0.379
10	69	Nicky HAYDEN	USA	Ducati Team	Ducati	318.3	1'32.395	1.175 / 0.032
11	29	Andrea IANNONE	ITA	Energy T.I. Pramac Racing	Ducati	319.8	1'32.596	1.376 / 0.201
12	51	Michele PIRRO	ITA	Ducati Test Team	Ducati	318.8	1'32.756	1.536 / 0.160
13	41	Aleix ESPARGARO	SPA	Power Electronics Aspar	ART	311.6	1'32.809	1.589 / 0.053
14	71	Claudio CORTI	ITA	NGM Mobile Forward Racing	FTR Kawasaki	307.4	1'33.172	1.952 / 0.363
15	5	Colin EDWARDS	USA	NGM Mobile Forward Racing	FTR Kawasaki	309.2	1'33.252	2.032 / 0.080
16	8	Hector BARBERA	SPA	Avintia Blusens	FTR	309.1	1'33.270	2.050 / 0.018
17	9	Danilo PETRUCCI	ITA	Came IodaRacing Project	Ioda-Suter	307.0	1'33.304	2.084 / 0.034
18	68	Yonny HERNANDEZ	COL	Ignite Pramac Racing	Ducati	319.8	1'33.487	2.267 / 0.183
19	14	Randy DE PUNIET	FRA	Power Electronics Aspar	ART	307.1	1'33.727	2.507 / 0.240
20	23	Luca SCASSA	ITA	Cardion AB Motoracing	ART	305.4	1'34.049	2.829 / 0.322
21	7	Hiroshi AOYAMA	JPN	Avintia Blusens	FTR	311.9	1'34.077	2.857 / 0.028
22	70	Michael LAVERTY	GBR	Paul Bird Motorsport	ART	306.3	1'34.132	2.912 / 0.055
23	67	Bryan STARING	AUS	GO&FUN Honda Gresini	FTR Honda	303.7	1'35.478	4.258 / 1.346
24	50	Damian CUDLIN	AUS	Paul Bird Motorsport	PBM	304.5	1'35.644	4.424 / 0.166
25	45	Martin BAUER	AUT	Remus Racing Team	S&B Suter	301.0	1'35.832	4.612 / 0.188
26	52	Lukas PESEK	CZE	Came IodaRacing Project	Ioda-Suter	301.3	1'36.353	5.133 / 0.521

Weather Conditions:

| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 23º|Humidity: 41%| Ground: 25ºRecords:

Fastest Lap:	Lap: 16	Marc MARQUEZ	1'31.220	158.0 Km/h
Circuit Record Lap:	2008	Casey STONER	1'32.582	155.7 Km/h
Best Lap:	2012	Dani PEDROSA	1'30.844	158.7 Km/h

[roogazza]

One of many guesses ??
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/...8Galbusera.htm

Ps sorry about that, Bill and I obviously read the same sites ????