MotoGP 2013

[Crasherfromwayback]

As for Stoner nah didn't rate him, electronics made him look better than he was.

For a chap that considers himself well informed you're off track there mate. It's a well known fact that Stoner relied on the electronics far less than pretty much everyone else. MM has used his settings.

its not a troll its my opinion.......i don't think he was in the class of Mick Dohaan or Eddie lawson, Wayne R or Kev S
shit Casey even would like to have a go with them by the sound of it.

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Stoner has won more races than Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz and Gardner. End of.

[husaberg]

For a chap that considers himself well informed you're off track there mate. It's a well known fact that Stoner relied on the electronics far less than pretty much everyone else. MM has used his settings.



Stoner has won more races than Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz and Gardner. End of.

really????????????

you missed the point.........re the electronics.
and Stoner only won 2 championships, less championships than Rainey (3), lawson (4) Doohan (5)only one more than Schwantz and Gardner.
These guys won them against each other.

Pete, stoners yes hes won more races yet his wining percentage is average, hes only won 2 championships, because they average about 5-6 more racers a year, you know this. i don't think there is a same depth at the moment as evidenced by the average riders that are still past their best yet still mixing it in Motogp

[Drew]

Rainey (3), lawson (4) Doohan (5)only one more than Schwantz and Gardner.
These guys won them against each other.

There's an interseting way of looking at it. But, were they all racing for the full eleven years together? Like, did anyone else get a look in over that time?

[husaberg]

There's an interseting way of looking at it. But, were they all racing for the full eleven years together? Like, did anyone else get a look in over that time?

for the most part over about the 8 year heyday they actually were.


Lawson and Gardner retired the same year as each other. 92 lawson went from 83-92 Gardner 83 but full seasons 85-92

the party stopped when Rainey was injured..93 84-93 (88-93 on 500's)

Schwantz retired 95. 86-95

Doohan totally dominated from then on...... his 500gp years were 89-99 (lost best part of 2 good years when he was at his best from the assen crash)

I can't think of anyone who did get a look in over the period, Kockinski, beatie and Caladora threatened..........other than spencer but i already mentioned him up 87 when he burned out

[pritch]

Interesting comment from Nick Harris during FP2.

As near as I can recall, "Bradley Smith has scored more world championship points in his debut season in the premier class than any previous British rider."
And that's with a race to go.

I don't know how far Harris is going back, but I didn't want Pete to miss that.

Also, during one of the recent MotoPod podcasts there was mention that at this stage Colin Edwards will be riding without pay next year. He needs to find an additional sponsor if he wants a wage.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Interesting comment from Nick Harris during FP2.

As near as I can recall, "Bradley Smith has scored more world championship points in his debut season in the premier class than any previous British rider."
And that's with a race to go.

I don't know how far Harris is going back, but I didn't want Pete to miss that.

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Lol. That's not saying a whole lot though is it! Mind you...if he has a good race tonight the lil fucker could cost me a carton!

[Bender]

nah ya not getting off that easily you said they were left behind by better riders this was not the case.
what ever the list lawson should have been on it not, Gardner no mater how much i admired him he was no Lawson.......


As for Stoner nah didn't rate him, electronics made him look better than he was.

Well, we can once again discuss who are the greatest of all time by creating a big long list (I mean, we all left of Yer Maun for starters...)

But the two points I was making were that MM has lifted the bar a long way and anyone who wants to be world champion over the next few years is going to have to get there. Lorenzo is there, but only just (and the Yamaha isn't, but only just).

And, is Rossi as good as we were all led to believe over the last decade? Was the opposition through that time simply off the pace a notch or two? He's at least smart enough to understand this and wants to prove he was, and still is, worthy of the title of GOAT. He thinks that he needs fresh thinking in his camp, hence the removal of Burgess.

Christian Gabbarini to Rossi? I doubt it.

[denill]

Have read that now Suzuki could just tempt Burgess with a job offer. A bit 'fanciful' I know. But the more ridiculous but whimsical thought is - that he brings Stoner with him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Have read that now Suzuki could just tempt Burgess with a job offer. A bit 'fanciful' I know. But the more ridiculous but whimsical thought is - that he brings Stoner with him.

I'd say there as much chance of Stoner wanting to team up with Jerry as there is me getting a call from Suzuki to be team mates with him.

Doubt Stoner would ever forgive Jerry for doubting his efforts on the Ducati.

[Drew]

I'd say there as much chance of Stoner wanting to team up with Jerry as there is me getting a call from Suzuki to be team mates with him.

Doubt Stoner would ever forgive Jerry for doubting his efforts on the Ducati.

Were I Burgess, I think I'd just retire and fuck off home. He's not gonna be short of a dollar or two, whatever team he did go to isn't gonna find another Marquez for a few years, and the guy's getting on a bit.

Who needs the bloody drama?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Were I Burgess, I think I'd just retire and fuck off home. He's not gonna be short of a dollar or two, whatever team he did go to isn't gonna find another Marquez for a few years, and the guy's getting on a bit.

Who needs the bloody drama?

Agree 100%

[HenryDorsetCase]

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I won't be staying up to watch though.

Yay for Sommet sports though, eh?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Were I Burgess, I think I'd just retire and fuck off home. He's not gonna be short of a dollar or two, whatever team he did go to isn't gonna find another Marquez for a few years, and the guy's getting on a bit.

Who needs the bloody drama?

I remember Jerry saying last year that he would stick around as long as Rossi did. Now Rossi has kicked him to the kerb more than likely he would be all like "Fuck this, I'm done". He is only 60 though. Depends if he wants another go-round on the roller coaster.

[Drew]

I remember Jerry saying last year that he would stick around as long as Rossi did. Now Rossi has kicked him to the kerb more than likely he would be all like "Fuck this, I'm done". He is only 60 though. Depends if he wants another go-round on the roller coaster.

This threads days (hours now) are numbered. I've taken to my mindless ramblings in the 2014 thread.

Everyone is wording the split similarly to you. It might be right of course, and Burgess certainly didn't have time to form a politically acceptable response to the question when asked about it. But it rings slightly off, to my ear at least.

Rossi is no golden boy...though some of us wish he was because of his achievment and flair. But there's possibly a lot more to it than what we hear. Media, after all, cannot be trusted to present any story as a whole. It wouldn't promote future sales if they did.

[onearmedbandit]

Exactly Drew, 95% of what is discussed here is based on what we get presented with by Dorna, the media and the like.