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    TPS replacement 1198

    Has anybody had to do this job?

    I've seen just the TPS listed on ebay
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tchlink:top:en
    looks like a press in item, the local Ducati guy is telling me the whole throttle body needs replacing tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmartin View Post
    Has anybody had to do this job?

    I've seen just the TPS listed on ebay
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tchlink:top:en
    looks like a press in item, the local Ducati guy is telling me the whole throttle body needs replacing tho
    I'm not familiar with the 1198 first hand, but I'd imagine he's saying that as most likely Ducati only list the throttle body as a spare part if it's like most other Ducati's.
    For some reason they never seem to list throttle body or carburettor parts separately, even though in most cases the parts are available from other manufacturers using the same components.
    Though to be honest if he's any good as a Ducati tech he should know that....

    You will need to reset the TPS either via the dealers Mathesis tool or some similar aftermarket diagnostic tool/software etc., after fitting it.



    This might be of help (pinched from elsewhere on the interweb):

    TPS reset
    Taken from a Ducati Service Bulletin (@ Sport Classic Net) Info as of 27 Jan 2007

    Please keep in mind that every time you replace the fuel injector electronic control unit (ECU) or the instrument panel you must properly re-set the throttle position sensor (TPS). DNA also recommends performing this operation to all new Ducati motorcycles during Pre Delivery Inspection. For your reference, listed below are the relative TPS reset values for the following models:

    Model-----------Throttle opening (Degrees)--------Linear
    M695-----------2.7 +/ - 0.1------------------------YES
    S2R 800--------2.7 +/ - 0.1------------------------YES
    S2R 1000------3.2 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    S4R-------------2.7+/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    S4R S-----------2.7 +/ - 0.1------------------------YES
    SS 800----------2.7 +/ - 0.1------------------------YES
    ST3-------------3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    ST3S-ABS------3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    MTS 1100------3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    MTS 1100S-----3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    HM 1100--------3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    HM 1100S-------3.0 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    999S TEAM USA
    ------------------2.3 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    1098-1098S-1098 TRI-COLORE
    ------------------2.6 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    GT 1000---------3.2 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    SPORT 1000 BIP
    ------------------3.2 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES
    SPORT 1000S---3.2 +/ - 0.1-------------------------YES

    Throttle position sensor description Sport Classic range

    Operating description
    It provides the ECU with a variable voltage ranging from about 0V up to nearly 5V depending on throttle opening angle;
    The electric signal sent by the throttle position sensor is also used to determine how quickly the throttle is being opened or closed. The ECU processes this signal using its engine control strategies to determine ignition advance and injection time depending on engine load, acceleration (pick-up pump function) and deceleration (cut off function);
    It is mounted on the throttle body and moves with the throttle shaft.

    Electric specifications
    Resistance measured across terminals A and B of the throttle position sensor with the connector disconnected should be about 1100 Ohm;
    Resistance measured across terminals A and C of the throttle position sensor with the connector disconnected should rise from about 1100 Ohm up to nearly 2000 Ohm when the throttle is turned from the fully closed to the fully open position;
    Connect the connector on the throttle position sensor (ensure that the Engine and Body connectors are plugged to the ECU). Turn the key to on and check to ensure that voltage across terminals A and C of the throttle position sensor rises from about 420 mV up to nearly 4.2 V when the throttle is turned from the fully closed to the fully open position;
    Connect the connector on the throttle position sensor (ensure that the Engine and Body connectors are connected correctly on the ECU). Turn the key to on and check voltage across terminals A and B of the throttle position sensor connector; reading should be about 4.9 V (view throttle position sensor circuit).

    Diagnostic capabilities
    The ECU recognizes the following errors:
    Short circuit to ground (CCGND)
    Open circuit or short circuit to battery voltage (CA CCVBatt)

    Setting
    The throttle position sensor must be initialized each time the injection system is serviced

    Please note that Ducati-UpNorth.com cannot accept any liability for the accuracy or content of this section. Visitors who rely on this information do so at their own risk. If you are unsure it's worth contacting your local Ducati dealer who will be able to help. Do not attempt a repair or modification if you do not have the correct tools or knowledge to do so.

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    Cheers dude, appreciate your input. I've only just brought the thing, so Red Baron is paying the bill, just if it turns out any parts are ex Italy, this fix would have it on the road a lot sooner

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