More cyclists moaning about car drivers

[5150]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/...of-bad-driving

Interesting read when it coms to the feedback and comments section.....

[JimO]

had to laugh at them complaining about cars running red lights, most cyclists i see do the same

[Tigadee]

I grew up for a little over a decade in Singapore and there cyclists pay a rego for each bicycle. They have every right to be on the road, and therefore they have every obligation to help pay for it.

[iYRe]

I grew up for a little over a decade in Singapore and there cyclists pay a rego for each bicycle. They have every right to be on the road, and therefore they have every obligation to help pay for it.

I pay car rego, motorcycle rego, taxes, rates, etc etc. I have every right to be on the road on my bicycle.

If you'll got off your asses and cycled the world would be a much better place. And there would be a lot less idiots in cars to try and murder me regardless of what form of 2 wheels I choose on a particular day.

It seems ironic to me that motorcyclists - who share all the same problems but even then, less - are so full of hate towards cyclists. Cyclists and motorcyclists should be working together to make the roads safer for 2 wheels..

[speights_bud]

I pay car rego, motorcycle rego, taxes, rates, etc etc. I have every right to be on the road on my bicycle.

If you'll got off your asses and cycled the world would be a much better place. And there would be a lot less idiots in cars to try and murder me regardless of what form of 2 wheels I choose on a particular day.

It seems ironic to me that motorcyclists - who share all the same problems but even then, less - are so full of hate towards cyclists. Cyclists and motorcyclists should be working together to make the roads safer for 2 wheels..

Rubbish, I don't see how "what form of 2 wheels I choose on a particular day." matters at all, i pay motorcycle & car rego. What you wrote sounds like me saying "I don't have to pay my Motorbike Rego because I've already paid my car one & Rates etc which means i have every right to choose what i travel on the road with"

My personal opinion is that if you want to use the road you need to pay your share regardless of what mode of transport you are on. Although i do think there would need to be more detail in it with regards to school kids etc

Motorcycle Rego has been increased due to being singled out as 'high risk' and i have to pay accordingly like everyone else. Why should we subsidize the accidents and recovery costs of cyclists on the road who often make no effort in wearing safety equipment/clothing when we are already being singled out and yet they pay nothing??

[iYRe]

Actually, since I pay huge fees to use the roads for my other vehicles, but then choose to use a vehicle that doesnt ruin the tarmac, pollute the atmosphere, cause traffic jams, take up (and require) parking spaces etc.. I should be being PAID to do it..
Or at least, getting a rebate on my taxes, rates, etc.

I havent had a motorcycle accident since 1984, and I havent had a bicycle accident (requiring tax payer $) since 1967, so why should I have to pay anything?

So what I am saying is, it costs everyone for cars and motorcycles to be provided for, so when people cycle (lets say.. to work, to drop the kids off at school, or to go to the dairy, as I do) we are SAVING the country money. Research shows that if just 5% of the population cycled, nearly 120 lives would be saved, and it would save the country 200 million dollars.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...10.00621.x/pdf

Moving urban trips from cars to bicycles: impact on health and emissionsGraeme Lindsay, Alexandra Macmillan, Alistair WoodwardSchool of Population Health, University of Auckland, New ZealandAbstractObjective: To estimate the effects on health, air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions if short trips (?7 km) were undertaken by bicycle rather than motor car.Method: Existing data sources were used to model effects, in the urban setting in New Zealand, of varying the proportion of vehicle kilometres travelled by bicycle instead of light motor vehicle.Results: Shifting 5% of vehicle kilometres to cycling would reduce vehicle travel by approximately 223 million kilometres each year, save about 22 million litres of fuel and reduce transport-related greenhouse emissions by 0.4%. The health effects would include about 116 deaths avoided annually as a result of increased physical activity, six fewer deaths due to local air pollution from vehicle emissions, and an additional five cyclist fatalities from road crashes. In economic terms, including only fatalities and using the NZ Ministry of Transport Value of a Statistical Life, the health effects of a 5% shift represent net savings of about $200 million per year.Conclusion: The health benefits of moving from cars to bikes heavily outweigh the costs of injury from road crashes.Implications: Transport policies that encourage bicycle use will help to reduce air pollution and greenhouse emissions and improve public health.Key words: Air pollution, bicycles, climate change, environmental health, greenhouse gases, injury, mortality, physical activity, transport.Aust NZ J Public Health. 2010; 54-60 doi: 10.1111/j.1753-6405.2010.00621.x

[speights_bud]

It would cost the country too you know, because Rego doesn't pay Anything towards the maintenance or running costs of the road, it's something like 95% ACC levy (sorry i don't have the current figures). The Taxes in your fuel pay for roading up keep, so if the Gubberment has less people buying fuel it is left with less income to look after the roads its already struggling to maintain...

Hence i believe they need to look at charging fee's on hybrid vehicles not using petrol in the way of RUC's... as they are still vehicles using the road but the Govt are not receiving any income from them to maintain the road they are using...

It's kind of like not increasing the drinking age, anyone with brains knows that we would be better off with it lifted, less hospital bills etc etc. But the costs financially are the huge amounts of tax missed out on by potentially losing all those sales...

[JimO]

It seems ironic to me that motorcyclists - who share all the same problems but even then, less - are so full of hate towards cyclists. Cyclists and motorcyclists should be working together to make the roads safer for 2 wheels..

motorcyclists dont ride 3 abreast on winding roads holding other road users up, i have no problem with cyclists but have seen some bad behavior by cyclists its a wonder there arnt more killed on the roads

[neels]

motorcyclists dont ride 3 abreast on winding roads holding other road users up,

Yes they bloody do, probably my worst trip to the west coast was behind 2 hi vis clad motorycyclists with those annoying flashing brake lights, wobbling their way around corners at less than the posted recommended speed. Then on the way back I got a bunch of guys on cruisers who were holding me up slowing down so they didn't scrape their shiny bits on the road.

Then there's ignorant truck drivers, dopey middle aged women in people movers, nana and grandad in their suzuki swift pootling over the hill for a pot of tea.

Basically there are ignorant bastards using all forms of transport, who don't give a shit who they inconvenience.

[5150]

Cyclists and motorcyclists should be working together to make the roads safer for 2 wheels..

Only when the former pay road user charges and obey the road rules will we have any form of respect for the lycra jokeys.

[Usarka]

Fucking pedestrians should be run over too. I hate having to sit at a red light or zebra crossing when they cross the road. The fuckers jay-walk to, pricks should have to pay to use the footpaths.

[duckonin]

Only when the former pay road user charges and obey the road rules will we have any form of respect for the lycra jokeys.

Come on, you didn't give that much thought at all .

[avgas]

Riding a bicycle on the road is like prison sex......

Its going to hurt, your going to look stupid and someone will always out muscle you.

Not to mention the fact most of the guys who are "top dog" get caught using drugs.

[Kickaha]

motorcyclists dont ride 3 abreast on winding roads holding other road users up, i have no problem with cyclists but have seen some bad behavior by cyclists its a wonder there arnt more killed on the roads

Motorcyclists are easily just as big a pack of cunts on the road as any other group, they whinge about every other user group a lot as well

[Road kill]

I pay car rego, motorcycle rego, taxes, rates, etc etc. I have every right to be on the road on my bicycle.

If you'll got off your asses and cycled the world would be a much better place. And there would be a lot less idiots in cars to try and murder me regardless of what form of 2 wheels I choose on a particular day.

It seems ironic to me that motorcyclists - who share all the same problems but even then, less - are so full of hate towards cyclists. Cyclists and motorcyclists should be working together to make the roads safer for 2 wheels..

Maybe you and your mates should start doing head checks before swerving around that parked car when there's another car or truck coming up behind you.

Maybe you should stop riding on the road during rush hours and thus forcing people that "do pay" for the right to be doing what they are from having to cross the center line to avoid running over your self rightous arse.

By the way,,your bike didn't grow on a tree,,it's just a much a product of the industrial world as the cars you think it's better than.

Motorcycles and pushbikes are nothing like each other,,,so fuck off.