More cyclists moaning about car drivers

[nzspokes]

Ive seen reports that state that charging cyclists regos would cost more in compliance than they would recover. So pointless.

Its an argument that will keep going. But cyclists have a customary right to use the road.

I think it would be better to ban horse floats. And old people. And people on bikes that go slow. And people on Shinkos.

[huff3r]

Maybe you and your mates should start doing head checks before swerving around that parked car when there's another car or truck coming up behind you.

Maybe you should stop riding on the road during rush hours and thus forcing people that "do pay" for the right to be doing what they are from having to cross the center line to avoid running over your self rightous arse.

By the way,,your bike didn't grow on a tree,,it's just a much a product of the industrial world as the cars you think it's better than.

Motorcycles and pushbikes are nothing like each other,,,so fuck off.

You do realise that the only reason a cyclist has to swerve around a parked car is because they are being courteous and keeping as far left as practical, and that the road code actually suggests they ride fully in the lane.

To be honest you should stop being such a cock, and if you see a cyclist coming up towards a parked car, give them some fucking space. It isn't that hard, and it won't kill you. Not doing it however might kill them.

And despite everyones claims to the contrary, I very much doubt that bicycles cost ACC fuck-tonnes, as despite the shit attitude towards cyclists in NZ, they quite often manage to stay largely injury free! (I have NEVER had an ACC covered bicycle accident).

In saying that, there are absolute cocks on bicycles too, just like there are far too many absolute cocks on motorcycles. People just need to grow the fuck up, sprout some testicles, and give each other some respect for once!

[Motig]

Ive seen reports that state that charging cyclists regos would cost more in compliance than they would recover. So pointless.

Its an argument that will keep going. But cyclists have a customary right to use the road.

I think it would be better to ban horse floats. And old people. And people on bikes that go slow. And people on Shinkos.

Well obviously they'll just have to charge more so that the cyclists are paying their way.
The big problem is not cars, bikes etc but the fact that the roads in NZ in the majority of cases are built only just wide enough for cars and theres no way the govt is going to spend money to fix that problem. The easy fix is what their doing now- painting a cycle lane in an already constricted space then blaming roadusers for the problem.

[Motig]

Yes they bloody do, probably my worst trip to the west coast was behind 2 hi vis clad motorycyclists with those annoying flashing brake lights, wobbling their way around corners at less than the posted recommended speed. Then on the way back I got a bunch of guys on cruisers who were holding me up slowing down so they didn't scrape their shiny bits on the road.

Then there's ignorant truck drivers, dopey middle aged women in people movers, nana and grandad in their suzuki swift pootling over the hill for a pot of tea.

Basically there are ignorant bastards using all forms of transport, who don't give a shit who they inconvenience.

Congratulations on being perfect.

[Kickaha]

Motorcycles and pushbikes are nothing like each other,,,so fuck off.

Yeah they are, they've both got two wheels and attract a lot of fuckwits to riding them

[Motig]

It would cost the country too you know, because Rego doesn't pay Anything towards the maintenance or running costs of the road, it's something like 95% ACC levy (sorry i don't have the current figures). The Taxes in your fuel pay for roading up keep, so if the Gubberment has less people buying fuel it is left with less income to look after the roads its already struggling to maintain...

Hence i believe they need to look at charging fee's on hybrid vehicles not using petrol in the way of RUC's... as they are still vehicles using the road but the Govt are not receiving any income from them to maintain the road they are using...

It's kind of like not increasing the drinking age, anyone with brains knows that we would be better off with it lifted, less hospital bills etc etc. But the costs financially are the huge amounts of tax missed out on by potentially losing all those sales...

The govts already talking about raising petrol tax by 3 cents a litre because their revenue is down for roading due to vehicles being more fuel efficent.

[steve_t]

I sometimes ride a bicycle and it does piss me off that people rant about cyclists with hatred BUT it does also piss me off when I see cyclists riding 3 abreast or even 2 abreast when the road is narrow. All that 'right to be on the road' stuff is bullshit. Everyone just needs to try to pose as little inconvenience and danger to everyone else as they can. The world is just too full of douchebags on bikes, motorbikes, in cars, trucks etc etc. and it's the stupid few that gives the rest a bad name

[bogan]

Yeah they are, they've both got two wheels and attract a lot of fuckwits to riding them

Ah, but there's no kiwicyclist for the fuckwits to vent on, so they have to go out on the road and ride three abreast while swerving, running red lights, and staring only at the three meters ahead of their bike. Just imagine if all the fuckwits on kb actually had to ride their bikes

But more seriously, the problem with this sort of argument, is there is no such thing a generic cyclist. There just fuckwits who happens to ride pedlys, just like there are fuckwits who ride/drive cars/bikes.

[RDJ]

And despite everyones claims to the contrary, I very much doubt that bicycles cost ACC fuck-tonnes, as despite the shit attitude towards cyclists in NZ, they quite often manage to stay largely injury free! (I have NEVER had an ACC covered bicycle accident).

Got figures? Your doubt isn't evidence,,,

[Usarka]

In 2008 there were 1,170 bicycle accidents and 36 deaths costing 15,543 million dollars in entitlement claims. Cyclists paid no ACC levies.

DIY accidents cost $641 million and they don't pay ACC levies either. So what's your point?

[Kickaha]

Cyclists paid no ACC levies.

I did, I paid them when I did my rego

[RDJ]

DIY accidents cost $641 million and they don't pay ACC levies either. So what's your point?

The point is that (as has been stated over and over again in the forum) cyclists and other non-paying road users do not pay extra for their (risky) use of the common roadways. Motorcyclists do...

[huff3r]

The point is that (as has been stated over and over again in the forum) cyclists and other non-paying road users do not pay extra for their (risky) use of the common roadways. Motorcyclists do...

You realise that everyones ACC levies would be lower if people just showed some courtesy and respect to other road users? And considering the number of cyclists in the country, 36 deaths a year is tiny.

[Bald Eagle]

And considering the number of cyclists in the country, 36 deaths a year is tiny.

but it's a start ;-)

[pzkpfw]

I did, I paid them when I did my rego

No, you didn't.

I have a car and bike and pay rego for both, so ACC for both.

You may have paid rego for some vehicle or vehicles, but not for your cycle.

Especially now that folk who choose to ride pay higher ACC fees than people who choose to drive (and people who do both pay both), it's bollocks that cyclists pay nothing specific related to their personal risk profile.