More cyclists moaning about car drivers

[nzspokes]

Especially now that folk who choose to ride pay higher ACC fees than people who choose to drive (and people who do both pay both), it's bollocks that cyclists pay nothing specific related to their personal risk profile.

Please go read my previous post there champ. The first bit about it compliance costs being higher than the recovery rate. Or do you want to up everybodys rate so you can pointlessly charge cyclists?

[iYRe]

Yes they bloody do, probably my worst trip to the west coast was behind 2 hi vis clad motorycyclists with those annoying flashing brake lights, wobbling their way around corners at less than the posted recommended speed. Then on the way back I got a bunch of guys on cruisers who were holding me up slowing down so they didn't scrape their shiny bits on the road.

Then there's ignorant truck drivers, dopey middle aged women in people movers, nana and grandad in their suzuki swift pootling over the hill for a pot of tea.

Basically there are ignorant bastards using all forms of transport, who don't give a shit who they inconvenience.

yup, and it appears most of em ride motorcycles and frequent this forum..

Only when the former pay road user charges and obey the road rules will we have any form of respect for the lycra jokeys.

no one wears lycra any more..

Maybe you and your mates should start doing head checks before swerving around that parked car when there's another car or truck coming up behind you.

Maybe you should stop riding on the road during rush hours and thus forcing people that "do pay" for the right to be doing what they are from having to cross the center line to avoid running over your self rightous arse.

By the way,,your bike didn't grow on a tree,,it's just a much a product of the industrial world as the cars you think it's better than.

Motorcycles and pushbikes are nothing like each other,,,so fuck off.

wow.. brain surgeon alert. How do you find the ignition on your bike?

[Swoop]

no one wears lycra any more...

You, being in D'auckland, should have plenty of daily evidence to the contrary.

[BoristheBiter]

I did, I paid them when I did my rego

No you didn't you paid for it with your income tax (paye) as cycling is classed as a sport not a motor vehicle.

[iYRe]

You, being in D'auckland, should have plenty of daily evidence to the contrary.

its only about 5% lycra.. its merino, poly and other special wicking materials.

I dont like wearing it.. but you try riding 100k in "normal" clothes.. it sucks. Besides, we look like an even bigger dicks in our motorcycle gear, so people in glasshouses and stuff..

[Swoop]

its only about 5% lycra..

The number of cyclists' who are seen riding around fully clad in lycra are quite staggering. It honestly looks like there was an explosion in a lycra factory and these people were caught up in the blast.
Anyone who is a fan of the 1980's styles will be exceptionally happy to see the amount of fluoro colours being worn.

... we look like an even bigger dicks in our motorcycle gear,

I guess those who wear arse-less chaps are really letting the team down, but luckily some of us don't fall into that category, eh?

[pzkpfw]

Please go read my previous post there champ. The first bit about it compliance costs being higher than the recovery rate. Or do you want to up everybodys rate so you can pointlessly charge cyclists?

No, champ, I'm not necessarily saying they should be charged (*); I just object to this assumption by them (e.g. when they pay rego for a car or bike) that they have paid their dues. (Read the post I was replying to.)

(I'm more for the opposite; if we can't charge cyclists, due to compliance costs, then why is it "fair" to differentially charge other transport modes? I'd rather go back to the "old system" where some form of charging is found, where all are charged the same, and the benefits are shared around.)


((* though I do sometimes wish cyclists could be identified so the "few bad apples" would ride under the same risk of identification as I do when I ride my Z.))

[nzspokes]

No, champ, I'm not necessarily saying they should be charged (*); I just object to this assumption by them (e.g. when they pay rego for a car or bike) that they have paid their dues. (Read the post I was replying to.)

(I'm more for the opposite; if we can't charge cyclists, due to compliance costs, then why is it "fair" to differentially charge other transport modes? I'd rather go back to the "old system" where some form of charging is found, where all are charged the same, and the benefits are shared around.)


((* though I do sometimes wish cyclists could be identified so the "few bad apples" would ride under the same risk of identification as I do when I ride my Z.))

So you want to charge pedestrians as well? They share very similar death stats.

[pzkpfw]

So you want to charge pedestrians as well? They share very similar death stats.

Yeah, you're not reading what I'm writing.

[iYRe]

The number of cyclists' who are seen riding around fully clad in lycra are quite staggering. It honestly looks like there was an explosion in a lycra factory and these people were caught up in the blast.
Anyone who is a fan of the 1980's styles will be exceptionally happy to see the amount of fluoro colours being worn.

Lycra is still often used in shorts, but pretty much nothing else, for example from groundeffect.co.nz:

hi-performance bodywear combines a merino inner layer with a fast-drying polyester outer.

I guess those who wear arse-less chaps are really letting the team down, but luckily some of us don't fall into that category, eh?

No, arse-less chaps would be cool..

[MisterD]

Ah, but there's no kiwicyclist for the fuckwits to vent on,

There is, it's called "Vorb".

http://www.vorb.org.nz/sickening-vio...t-t121355.html

[pritch]

I still can't decide whether these cyclist hate threads are funny or tragic.

I'm already paying ACC levies on bike, car, and moped, only one of which I can use at a time. If they brought in a rego system for push bikes I don't think I'd bother paying it.

Funny that the most highly skilled motorcyclists in the world almost all ride pushbikes extensively? One even has (had?) his own racing team sponsored by Yamaha.


Maybe it's the least skilled motorcyclists that don't like cyclists?

[imdying]

Actually, since I pay huge fees to use the roads for my other vehicles, but then choose to use a vehicle that doesnt ruin the tarmac, pollute the atmosphere, cause traffic jams, take up (and require) parking spaces etc.. I should be being PAID to do it.

Ahahahahah... by that logic, I could cite the same reasons for not having to pay my motorcycle registration.

[iYRe]

There is, it's called "Vorb".

http://www.vorb.org.nz/sickening-vio...t-t121355.html

Or this: http://road.cc/content/news/70594-ab...s-aa-president

I still can't decide whether these cyclist hate threads are funny or tragic.

I'm already paying ACC levies on bike, car, and moped, only one of which I can use at a time. If they brought in a rego system for push bikes I don't think I'd bother paying it.

Funny that the most highly skilled motorcyclists in the world almost all ride pushbikes extensively? One even has (had?) his own racing team sponsored by Yamaha.


Maybe it's the least skilled motorcyclists that don't like cyclists?

Not necessarily least skilled.. just the most ignorant.

Ahahahahah... by that logic, I could cite the same reasons for not having to pay my motorcycle registration.

Incorrect. Motorcycle exhaust gases are worse for the environment than cars (in general). We still require roads, police, traffic lights, petrol, air, oil, grease, parking, blah blah blah.

[bogan]

Incorrect. Motorcycle exhaust gases are worse for the environment than cars (in general). We still require roads, police, traffic lights, petrol, air, oil, grease, parking, blah blah blah.

Ah yes, the inconvenient 'truth' of man made climate change; that ranks highly in the piss weak fall-back argument category. Not quite sure what that second bit is about, but if you change petrol to petrol/calories it applies to pedlies as well, is that what you meant?