More cyclists moaning about car drivers

[BoristheBiter]

Yes.

then get the fuck off the roads or stop your fucking pussy arsed whining.

[Bassmatt]

Anything we want..

That seems more like the typical cyclists attitude. Well done.

[iYRe]

That seems more like the typical cyclists attitude. Well done.

see now.. anything we want means just that. We can ride on gravel, tarmac, concrete, footpaths, roads, cycle paths.. about the only things we wont ride on are mud, snow/ice, or sand.

Bogan, anything that produces smog is bad.. smog producing gases are bad. If something produces more smog than something else, it is "more smog producing" - do you not understand?

It does not matter if you are a climate scientist, a greenie, or the KKK, producing smog is bad.. right? oh.. no.. hang on..

[BoristheBiter]

see now.. anything we want means just that. We can ride on gravel, tarmac, concrete, footpaths, roads, cycle paths.. about the only things we wont ride on are mud, snow/ice, or sand.

Bogan, anything that produces smog is bad.. smog producing gases are bad. If something produces more smog than something else, it is "more smog producing" - do you not understand?

It does not matter if you are a climate scientist, a greenie, or the KKK, producing smog is bad.. right? oh.. no.. hang on..

Who fucking cares about smog? It's the bikes that are the problem.

[5150]

see now.. anything we want means just that. We can ride on gravel, tarmac, concrete, footpaths, roads, cycle paths.. about the only things we wont ride on are mud, snow/ice, or sand.

Ummm, please correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked, riding on pedestrian desiganted footpath was against the law...... even for a cyclist. So you are freely admiting to breaking the law?

[iYRe]

Ummm, please correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked, riding on pedestrian desiganted footpath was against the law...... even for a cyclist. So you are freely admiting to breaking the law?

A lot of footpaths are designated "shared", just like bus lanes in Auckland.

But no, I never ride on a footpath, they are too dangerous.

Do you always indicate for 3 seconds before changing lanes? In fact, do you indicate at all?

[pritch]

Motorcycle exhaust gases are worse for the environment than cars (in general).

There is now a Belgian (?) study (doubtless already mentioned on KB - probably more than once ) which indicated that the more motorcycles there were on a given road the earlier everybody got home.

In the area studied the conclusion was that every road user spent two minutes less on the road. That two minutes multiplied by thousands of vehicles is a big saving in emissions. This saving being due entirely to the presence of motorcycles in numbers moving between the rows of cars rather than taking another place in the queue.

[bogan]

Bogan, anything that produces smog is bad.. smog producing gases are bad. If something produces more smog than something else, it is "more smog producing" - do you not understand?

You do realise there is a level of smog that is completely harmless right? If we are nowhere near that level then things that produce smog are not bad. Your binary viewpoint is far too simplistic for such a complex ecosystem.

[iYRe]

There is now a Belgian (?) study (doubtless already mentioned on KB - probably more than once ) which indicated that the more motorcycles there were on a given road the earlier everybody got home.

In the area studied the conclusion was that every road user spent two minutes less on the road. That two minutes multiplied by thousands of vehicles is a big saving in emissions. This saving being due entirely to the presence of motorcycles in numbers moving between the rows of cars rather than taking another place in the queue.

This is feasible.. however it is per machine rather than collectively that I am talking about.

[5150]

Do you always indicate for 3 seconds before changing lanes? In fact, do you indicate at all?

Don't know what does this statment have anything to do with the subject, but to answer your question, YES, I do indicate for ATLEAST 3 seconds, because I value my life enough to be smart about my riding habits.

[iYRe]

Don't know what does this statment have anything to do with the subject, but to answer your question, YES, I do indicate for ATLEAST 3 seconds, because I value my life enough to be smart about my riding habits.

wow, so you are either the only motorcyclist ever who indicates...

Its relevant because most motorcyclists do not indicate, especially when splitting lanes, which is illegal (the not indicating). And yet, it is done for many legitimate (and illegitimate) reasons. Cyclists also do things that are "illegal" or that people in motorised vehicles think are stupid/dangerous/idiotic, but most sensible cyclists do them for a reason, because their experience says they can get away with it, or that it is actually safer, or there is no point in not doing it.

People in glasshouses...

[haydes55]

Just casually sharing a story or retarded cyclists. On the northland ride the other weekend We passed a few groups of cyclists heading back south. One particular group of about 5 riders were riding in a cluster of stupidity. There was enough room for me to overtake them on the left side, but decided that could be dangerous (dugh) so I had to cross a double yellow line to overtake these 5 lycra clad retards with 1 brain cell between them. The worst part is they had to know I was going to over take. I was well back in a line of other bikes who had all just over taken them.

My only thought after over taking them was "Why don't I see more news stories of cyclists being killed?".

Motorcyclists wear protective gear so if there is an accident they have a greater chance of survival, cyclists don't. In a collision involving cyclists I think ACC would need to pay them out decent amount more. Cyclists create dangerous driving/riding situations unnecessarily, going 70km/h slower than traffic flow and not letting people past unless they make a dangerous overtake (Quite often it's the cyclist not leaving 1.5m to be given).

That being said I have seen cyclists riding as far left as they can in single file, and I salute those riders. They don't ride like twats and don't risk any ones lives or slow down traffic. Until you are free of guilt, you cannot criticise others.

[Usarka]

Do you guys *ever* talk to car drivers?

Every time the subject of motorcycles comes up with a car driver they talk about how motorcyclists carve in and out of traffic, speed, lane split etc. Just yesterday a guy at work said a bike was sitting behind him in traffic and it took a few minutes to work out what was wrong with that picture.

You anti-cylists sound just like all the car drivers I talk to. A bunch of whining nanas.

[pritch]

On the northland ride the other weekend We passed a few groups of cyclists heading back south. One particular group of about 5 riders were riding in a cluster of stupidity.

Two words: Stebel Nautilus.

The percentage of brainless fuckwit cyclists is probably about the same as brainless fuckwit motorcyclists. Actually, the cyclists percentage may be slightly higher because of Darwin's motorcycle casualties.

Motorcyclists have one advantage though, we can operate a really loud airhorn.

[haydes55]

Two words: Stebel Nautilus.

The percentage of brainless fuckwit cyclists is probably about the same as brainless fuckwit motorcyclists. Actually, the cyclists percentage may be slightly higher because of Darwin's motorcycle casualties.

Motorcyclists have one advantage though, we can operate a really loud airhorn.

'Tis true. 'Spose there's the same percentage for all people on the road regardless of vehicle.

Although my horn is more of a buzzer than an air horn haha.