Two motorcyclists dead - Wanaka region

**Jantar** · 1st December 2012, 09:25

I came through the Lindis yesterday and the cause and results are pretty plain to see. It was on that tight corner just north of Goodgers. The car coming south has simply failed to take the bend, and crossed straight over the road. No hint of driving on the wrong side of the road, and even if no motorcycles had been there at that precise instant in time, she would still have crashed the car.

**scumdog** · 1st December 2012, 09:31

Originally Posted by Jantar

I came through the Lindis yesterday and the cause and results are pretty plain to see. It was on that tight corner just north of Goodgers. The car coming south has simply failed to take the bend, and crossed straight over the road. No hint of driving on the wrong side of the road, and even if no motorcycles had been there at that precise instant in time, she would still have crashed the car.

Dont tell me speed was involved....

**swbarnett** · 1st December 2012, 13:15

Originally Posted by scumdog

Dont tell me speed was involved....

Good chance they were driving too fast for the conditions. However, theres's also a good chance they were under the limit.

Speed may have been involved but it is most likely irrelevant. The primary problem seems to be a complete lack of ability when it comes to judging the tightness of corners.

**FJRider** · 1st December 2012, 13:56

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Good chance they were driving too fast for the conditions. However, theres's also a good chance they were under the limit.

Speed may have been involved but it is most likely irrelevant. The primary problem seems to be a complete lack of ability when it comes to judging the tightness of corners.

Who are you referring too ..??? The woman driver that has been charged ... or the motorcyclists ... ???

Anybody attempting to take that particular corner at (or near) the speed limit will end up parked on the armco ...

**Berries** · 1st December 2012, 14:52

Originally Posted by FJRider

Anybody attempting to take that particular corner at (or near) the speed limit will end up parked on the armco ...

Jantar was a few km out with the location. The crash was south of Goodger Road on a 75km/h signed reverse curve not the really tight bend at Camp Creek.

**Jantar** · 1st December 2012, 15:02

Originally Posted by Berries

Jantar was a few km out with the location. The crash was south of Goodger Road on a 75km/h signed reverse curve not the really tight bend at Camp Creek.

Ok. In that case there has obviously been another serious crash at the tight bend near Goodgers sometime between Sunday and Friday involving a car and at least two motorcycles. Any details on that one?

**Berries** · 1st December 2012, 15:05

I'm not arguing on here, but have a look at the photo in the online ODT. Link.

**jellywrestler** · 1st December 2012, 15:07

Originally Posted by scumdog

Dont tell me speed was involved....

and alcohol of course

**PrincessBandit** · 1st December 2012, 15:07

And more motorcyclists killed today in separate accidents.

**Jantar** · 1st December 2012, 15:15

Originally Posted by Berries

I'm not arguing on here, but have a look at the photo in the online ODT. Link.

That is certainly NOT the Camp Creek bend, so another multiple vehicle accident in the last week. Maybe no serious injuries, but You can clearly see where a cay has failed to take the bend and skid marks from two bikes ending in fluids in 3 places on the road. Deritus on the road side suggests motorcycles were involved.

**FJRider** · 1st December 2012, 15:16

Originally Posted by Berries

Jantar was a few km out with the location. The crash was south of Goodger Road on a 75km/h signed reverse curve not the really tight bend at Camp Creek.

I had been told different to what Jantar stated ... but had no reason to argue it with him if he was through there. That corner is a local panel beaters favourite ... (as is the one way bridge over the Lindis river south of Tarris)

However ... The information I was given was ... the motorcyclists were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Traveling close together put more than one person involved. A two second gap with the rider in front of them may (would ..??) have saved one riders life.

The group trusted other road users to stay on their side of the road. One road user didn't stay on their side ... and two people died.

Those that like to ride closely together in a group ... might like to remember this accident. All the riders skill (or speed) had no effect on the end result.

**jellywrestler** · 1st December 2012, 15:43

Originally Posted by FJRider

Those that like to ride closely together in a group ... might like to remember this accident. All the riders skill (or speed) had no effect on the end result.

ditto for todays accident in the NAKI