Taranaki Toy Run crash

[Ocean1]

That would be due to (UNECE) Regulation 39 or EU standards. Basically manufacturers can't have a speedo showing you a speed lower than actual , but they can show a speed up to 110% plus 8kmh on mass produced vehicles.

In direct contradiction to accepted best practice for manufacture and calibration of any measurement instrument. Fuckwits.

[trustme]

It's no wonder we have a crap name for driving with attitudes like this.

I totally agree buy unfortunately it cuts both ways

[Zedder]

I totally agree buy unfortunately it cuts both ways

Where's your reasoning?

[oneofsix]

What the hell are you talking about with if you need to brake? Obviously they will then hit you and will also be in the wrong legally. Maybe I like this sort of thing? Get a grip!

Far safer to let them pass? What about the bullied driver who possibly drives off the road due to the fwit hassling them from behind? It's no wonder we have a crap name for driving with attitudes like this.

The bullied driver will not be the bullied driver is they let the tailgater pass. Also the road code does have sections on keeping left and not obstructing traffic etc.

[Zedder]

The bullied driver will not be the bullied driver is they let the tailgater pass. Also the road code does have sections on keeping left and not obstructing traffic etc.

So tailgating is ok then Six?

[PrincessBandit]

The bullied driver will not be the bullied driver is they let the tailgater pass. Also the road code does have sections on keeping left and not obstructing traffic etc.

I think we need an OMG smilie.

[monkeymcbean]

Oh, I'm 'manly' alright!

But I was commenting about a post that I suspect related to the fatal crash, i.e. break the neck of the driver that 'caused' the crash.
So far there has been at least two different drivers that 'caused' the crash - so who knows who actually 'caused it? whose neck would get broken?

And I do look at both cause and fault - although often they are one and the same.

Ha, well if I was at the scene and my partner got killed on his bike or driving his car by some idiotic driver who was not taking care, im not sure what I would do, but if I was sure who caused it, I would like to think they would not walk away without something to remind them everyday what they did, and thats not a red mark from a slap on the hand.
Of course thinking and doing is two different things.
Im sure im not the only one who thinks this..... but it would be breaking the law and fair enough, the law is designed to keep everybody in line.
But when you see ...for example driving behaviour getting completly out of control causing deaths on New Zealand roads....and im sure it happens in other countries? the law does not appear to be dealing out the justice due to the crime.
Some law breakers of a serious nature, need to get there 'just desserts' from other means and from my perspective I can't blame people for wanting to take the law into there own hands.
Of course where does that stop, but it would sure make people pull there heads in if they don't know who the next punch is going to be thrown from.

Besides, you think how much less time would be spent posting on sites like this about these matters, more would get done in quicker time, saves on court and hospital costs, if everything is done dusted at the scene of the crime.

[Ender EnZed]

Why should I have to pull over when I'm traveling at legal road speed and someone is tail gating me?

You don't "have" to but that's the only option that's 100% certain to get rid of the tailgater.

Tailgaters are road bullies who think they're exempt from road rules that others of us comply with... What this comes down to is impatient wankers being able to throw their weight around on the road and do whatever they like.

That may well be the case but knowing that isn't going to get you out of a situation that you don't want to be in.

Why should she let them pass?

Because:

the last thing you want is having to worry about the idiot right up your tail pipe.

[trustme]

Where's your reasoning?

Go back to post 174 to follow my reasoning. I in no way defend the driving of the tailgaters but I find the attitude of some of the posts here rather revealing, As a nation we are recognised as being bloody awful drivers & if those attitudes are representative of the average driver it is no wonder we are lousy drivers.
As an aside I have come to believe we are also lousy riders. If as a nation we are bad drivers there is absolutely no logic to the belief that we will make good riders. Our accident figures tend to support this novel concept.
Last post on this as it is off topic , this thread is about a tragic accident in which riders were killed or injured & there it should stay.

[pzkpfw]

Expecting and getting are quite often 2 totally different things...

Yes. And if someone is rushing to the hospital, and expects everyone to get out of their way, they'd be less likely to get that nice thing if they don't communicate. (Beyond the tail-gating itself.)

(My comment wasn't on the general tail-gating thing, it was specifically about that one fairly contrived reason given why someone might be tail-gating.)

[Zedder]

You don't "have" to but that's the only option that's 100% certain to get rid of the tailgater.



That may well be the case but knowing that isn't going to get you out of a situation that you don't want to be in.



Because:

Well, it looks like tailgating is an approved, and unavoidable situation.

[Zedder]

Go back to post 174 to follow my reasoning. I in no way defend the driving of the tailgaters but I find the attitude of some of the posts here rather revealing, As a nation we are recognised as being bloody awful drivers & if those attitudes are representative of the average driver it is no wonder we are lousy drivers.
As an aside I have come to believe we are also lousy riders. If as a nation we are bad drivers there is absolutely no logic to the belief that we will make good riders. Our accident figures tend to support this novel concept.
Last post on this as it is off topic , this thread is about a tragic accident in which riders were killed or injured & there it should stay.

Gottcha now, thanks. And yep we're off topic

[jasonu]

Well they can freakin wait then, can't they?

Sounds about right coming from a cop. Behaviour like that often baits the tail gater into a dumb manouver. Let 'em past and hopefully they will get a ticket further down the road.

Because they are obeying the law , driving to the speed limit, so they are fully entitled to drive like pricks & they will do so if the damn well want to & screw all you arse biscuits who think other wise.
Can someone explain to me why we are considered to be the most inconsiderate drivers in the world :laugh.
Just taking the piss, as you were.

Why should she let then pass? Tailgating is just plain bullying. There's enough crap behaviour taking place in front of you usually and the last thing you want is having to worry about the idiot right up your tail pipe. If they can't pass properly/safely then too bad.

Piss off. I hardly consider myself the police or a prick. Oh yeah "my wife's having a baby..." I think that used to be a pretty common excuse for speeding? Snort.

So you all bitch and moan about someone tailgateing you but you won't SAFELY move over and let them (probably a prick driver) pass and hopefully drive away and leave you to go about your business without someone riding your bumper. Doesn't that sound like the smart and safest thing to do?
Drivers like you are your own worst enemy.

The bullied driver will not be the bullied driver is they let the tailgater pass. Also the road code does have sections on keeping left and not obstructing traffic etc.

My point exactly.

I don't at all condone tail gateing but sitting in the middle of the road bang on the speed limit being awkward on purpose isn't right either.

[Zedder]

Sounds about right coming from a cop. Behaviour like that often baits the tail gater into a dumb manouver. Let 'em past and hopefully they will get a ticket further down the road.







So you all bitch and moan about someone tailgateing you but you won't SAFELY move over and let them (probably a prick driver) pass and hopefully drive away and leave you to go about your business without someone riding your bumper. Doesn't that sound like the smart and safest thing to do?
Drivers like you are your own worst enemy.



My point exactly.

I don't at all condone tail gateing but sitting in the middle of the road bang on the speed limit being awkward on purpose isn't right either.

Whoa there, the issue is tailgating which is just plain bad driving and bullying. There wasn't anything about sitting in the middle of the road.

[PrincessBandit]

So you all bitch and moan about someone tailgateing you but you won't SAFELY move over and let them (probably a prick driver) pass and hopefully drive away and leave you to go about your business without someone riding your bumper. Doesn't that sound like the smart and safest thing to do?
Drivers like you are your own worst enemy.



My point exactly.

I don't at all condone tail gateing but sitting in the middle of the road bang on the speed limit being awkward on purpose isn't right either.

Go sit on a cactus.