Taranaki Toy Run crash

[scumdog]

In light of the outcome (and it's the first fatality) perhaps something should be done to the Normanby overpass to lessen the crash rate?

''The crash was at a recognised black spot and came just one month after NZTA released statistics justifying a decision to spend money improving New Plymouth's Waiwhakaiho bridge instead of the Normanby overpass.

In 2005 three people died and two were injured in a crash on the overpass''.

So who decided it was a 'recognised black spot'??

I've known a lawyer to say "It's a tricky bend where several crashes have occurred your honour, in fact where my client crashed was the scene of a crash only a couple of months ago" - when in fact those two crashes were the only two in at that particular bend in at least a ten-year period.

[Edbear]

So who decided it was a 'recognised black spot'??

I've known a lawyer to say "It's a tricky bend where several crashes have occurred your honour, in fact where my client crashed was the scene of a crash only a couple of months ago" - when in fact those two crashes were the only two in at that particular bend in at least a ten-year period.

Defense lawyers, eh..? Why does nobody put the blame where it lies? The driver who crashed is usually responsible for the accident regardless. We have a majority of inexperienced and incapable drivers in this country who do not know how to control a vehicle at the best of times, and in situations where a quick decision is required are hopelessly out of their depth.

How many thousands of times have bends and stretches of road been covered daily throughout the country without incident despite this? If the roads were to blame, why is it that many of us here have been driving/riding for 20, 30, 40+ years without serious incidents? If the Cops were really out to get us, how come so many of us have either never had a ticket or have only had the very occaisional one?

I shake my head at the conspiracy theorists and those who blame everyone and everything but themselves for the trouble they get into.

[Naki Rat]

So who decided it was a 'recognised black spot'??

I've known a lawyer to say "It's a tricky bend where several crashes have occurred your honour, in fact where my client crashed was the scene of a crash only a couple of months ago" - when in fact those two crashes were the only two in at that particular bend in at least a ten-year period.

The crash occurred 800m from a "recognised black spot" so this piece of non-information (and typically lazy reporting) is totally irrelevant. Unfortunately those who inhabit our court system are largely oblivious to the real world so feed on such claims with little question

The real 'black spot' was the fucktard at the controls of the van in this incident.

[Katman]

I shake my head at the conspiracy theorists and those who blame everyone and everything but themselves for the trouble they get into.

Like oil on the road?

[Edbear]

Like oil on the road?

What part of "usually" was too hard for you to grasp?

[Maha]

So who decided it was a 'recognised black spot'??

I've known a lawyer to say "It's a tricky bend where several crashes have occurred your honour, in fact where my client crashed was the scene of a crash only a couple of months ago" - when in fact those two crashes were the only two in at that particular bend in at least a ten-year period.

Beats the shit out of me, that bit was copied and pasted from an article about the accident.

[Katman]

What part of "usually" was too hard for you to grasp?

Ain't no "usually" in the sentence I quoted.

[Edbear]

Ain't no "usually" in the sentence I quoted.

That's why it pays to read the whole post.

[Katman]

That's why it pays to read the whole post.

Like this bit?

We have a majority of inexperienced and incapable drivers in this country who do not know how to control a vehicle at the best of times, and in situations where a quick decision is required are hopelessly out of their depth.

[pritch]

I followed this thread for a while at the beginning but haven't read the whole thing. As for the "black spot" comment, the Normanby overpass has been a political hot potato locally for quite a while now. Some, including myself, consider that a change of direction accompanied by a change in gradient should not pose an insurmountable problem and that the real issue is crap driving. The yokels though become incensed at this suggestion.

While walking to the local pub for dinner on Sunday I note that work has started on the new Waiwhakaiho bridge so I guess the Normanby overbridge will continue to contribute to our hospital occupancy rate for some time to come.

Herewith what should be the final official word on the Christmas Toy Run fatalities:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...been-prevented

[Hitcher]

I followed this thread for a while at the beginning but haven't read the whole thing. As for the "black spot" comment, the Normanby overpass has been a political hot potato locally for quite a while now. Some, including myself, consider that a change of direction accompanied by a change in gradient should not pose an insurmountable problem and that the real issue is crap driving. The yokels though become incensed at this suggestion.

While walking to the local pub for dinner on Sunday I note that work has started on the new Waiwhakaiho bridge so I guess the Normanby overbridge will continue to contribute to our hospital occupancy rate for some time to come.

Herewith what should be the final official word on the Christmas Toy Run fatalities:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...been-prevented

The Normanby overbridge had nothing to do with this particular accident, but otherwise I agree with you.

[jasonu]

4 months sitting at home watching TV and a fine he will probably never pay seems a bit light considering the damage this peckerhead has done.

[Edbear]

Like this bit?

You are referring to my own accident, no doubt, where I was commended for being able to avoid a very serious crash involving several other cars?

4 months sitting at home watching TV and a fine he will probably never pay seems a bit light considering the damage this peckerhead has done.

The sentence is in line with the wet bus ticket approach in this country. We don't know the full situation though so it is not easy to make comment on.

[jasonu]

The sentence is in line with the wet bus ticket approach in this country. We don't know the full situation though so it is not easy to make comment on.

Maybe so. But from what has been reported this dick who flattened several people, who were apparently doing stuff all wrong, was not paying attention, has a long list of driving offences and $4000 of outstanding driving fines. I am not sure what else there is worth knowing about this incident. That lot alone makes it very easy for me to comment.

[Edbear]

Maybe so. But from what has been reported this dick who flattened several people, who were apparently doing stuff all wrong, was not paying attention, has a long list of driving offences and $4000 of outstanding driving fines. I am not sure what else there is worth knowing about this incident. That lot alone makes it very easy for me to comment.

There's too much of this happenning, for sure and something needs to get the message across.