Taranaki Toy Run crash

[veldthui]

Why, oh why did they put those stupid rumble strips on the roadsides instead of on the centreline? This would stop a lot of people from drifting over to the wrong side of the road.

Good idea. Put them in the middle of the road and then when we cross them to pass a car going slow we can wipe ourselves out.

[Mom]

What. The. Fuck?
Any of the popo on here like to elaborate on this?

Apparently, so they say, if you have been in a near miss situation you most likely contributed to the situation, or so I was told. Utter crap in this case, but that was the reason I got given.

[jellywrestler]

If a cop had been escorting the ride up front and on a bike surely he would now be in the same situation as the people that where run down.

Guess a lot of people are simply looking for answers to a very bad situation so things like this are said in the heat of the moment,,,much like here huh.

nowhere did it say that the front bikes were taken in fact a few threads ago someone said they were ahead of the crash.

BRONZ made this statement on the sunday nite news, it wasn't heat of the moment. more like we really haven't an answer as it was entirely the fault of the van driver but we've got to blame someone else too, so blame the police, that's what it sounded like to me

[ajturbo]

Having lived on a rural highway in the BOP with centreline rumble strips I can tell you they don't stop drivers overtaking, but they do piss off those who live near the road. The constant 'rat-tat-tat' as vehicles cross the centreline used to drive us nuts

i used to ask luke how many we had driven over.... as we drove over them... hahahahaha

[Pixie]

Gaweth Morgan and MORONZ.co.nz will fix it.

oh look Gawith has resigned from moronz

do we get our money back now?

[oneofsix]

Gaweth Morgan and MORONZ.co.nz will fix it.

oh look Gawith has resigned from moronz

do we get our money back now?

money demanded by the Government as a form of tax and you expect it to ever, ever reduce The best you can hope for is now that Garth has resigned you might get some benefit for your money rather than having it "invested"
avoiding bang for your buck, too many bangs this weekend

[Pixie]

Who are the NZ Motorcycle safety council ?,,,at last that's what I thought the guy called them/himself.

Heard this guy on the radio today "head of the NZMC safety council,,pointing out all his reasons it was pretty much the bikers own fault somebody ran them down because they were riding in a large group.

I have no idea who this cunt is but if he's on our side "we're fucked.

He's a KB member is he not?????

[oneofsix]

Who are the NZ Motorcycle safety council ?,,,at last that's what I thought the guy called them/himself.

Heard this guy on the radio today "head of the NZMC safety council,,pointing out all his reasons it was pretty much the bikers own fault somebody ran them down because they were riding in a large group.

I have no idea who this cunt is but if he's on our side "we're fucked.

Great aint it. Ride alone you are invisible so you have to make your self visible ( like you can force the other driver to open their eyes. Ride in a group its your fault for being in a large group despite "safety in numbers" basic herd survival et al.
You are a biker, you just can't win so keep your eyes open and stay alert and even then a "follow" biker will be along with half the facts and a large bias to tell you how you fucked up.

[Katman]

Great aint it. Ride alone you are invisible so you have to make your self visible ( like you can force the other driver to open their eyes. Ride in a group its your fault for being in a large group despite "safety in numbers" basic herd survival et al.
You are a biker, you just can't win so keep your eyes open and stay alert and even then a "follow" biker will be along with half the facts and a large bias to tell you how you fucked up.

Never let comprehension get in the way of a good rant.

[Paul in NZ]

Well my first reaction was pretty typical. Shoot the bastard etc etc… But the reality is that people die on the roads and sometimes you get multiple fatalities in a single accident. Its not that unusual but its more unusual for two motorcyclists to be killed and the have been too many incidents lately.

Yes – there is virtually no doubt (from the reports) that the van driver was a bit over excited. He fucked up big time and people died. Not to excuse his behavior in any way but I’m sure he didn’t wake up that morning and decide to go and kill some motorcyclists… Its not like getting a bit over excited and screwing things up on the road isn’t familiar to bikers either… Despite us being vulnerable users I don’t think we can take the high moral ground despite the obvious temptation.

Like it or not we have to face that fact that there is a price to pay for our freedom to roam and unfortunately that price is not one that’s spread out evenly over all the users. Surely as a motorcyclist its understood that the risk is higher for us? It doesnt make this any easier to swallow but thats the way it is...

This is a terrible terrible thing and the hurt and pains going to go on a lot longer for the survivors and the victims’ families that any anger and bile on KB. The ONLY thing we can do is assist these victims if we can, do our best to keep our selves safe and hope that we are never in this circumstance ourselves.

Other than that I’m buggered if I know what practical steps can be undertaken…

[Ocean1]

a "follow" biker will be along with half the facts and a large bias to tell you how you fucked up.

Never let comprehension get in the way of a good rant.

Fuck, that was uncanny.

Uh, except about the fact thing.

[willytheekid]

...Ride In Peace guys

I was shocked and saddened to read about this accident.
Loving thoughts go out to the family and friends of all affected by this bloody terrible accident

I too hope the courts throw the book at the driver...but we all know thats sadly NOT gonna happen in a NZ court
...I also believe the Popo should be making a stand in-regards to the Joke sentances being handed out by the NZ justice system! -(surely they too must be sick of seeing all there hard work & effort being dismissed by the courts and slimey lawyers.-eg Repeat drink drivers etc...must be frustrating watching them get slapped with a wet bus pass nearly everytime!)...but the Popo are probably not in the best position to help make the changes we all so despirately want to see within the Justice system.

...and as a note...spare a thought for the poor buggers having to turn up and help with this brutal accident...not a pritty job at all

Please!...Ride safe over summer and the holiday period KBers



...there panel damage...could be our life!


-Willy

[allycatz]

I don't know that piece of road at all but from the photos it seemed quite a major intersection. Were traffic marshalls posted there when the bikes went through?

[Naki Rat]

I don't know that piece of road at all but from the photos it seemed quite a major intersection. Were traffic marshalls posted there when the bikes went through?

This intersection (southern leg) is no more significant than many others on the ride's 'round the mountain' route, and the intersection itself doesn't appear to be the problem.

[allycatz]

This intersection (southern leg) is no more significant than many others on the ride's 'round the mountain' route, and the intersection itself doesn't appear to be the problem.

I don't know if it would of made much difference anyway judging by the behaviour of the van driver sadly