FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

[Grumph]

Ummmm ok...... well sort of.... actually not...... Nah, I'm confused.....

Don't you build a hot engine for going fast down straights???
How does a hot engine know it's going fast down a straight or around sweeping corners???

I know I'm no mechanic, but.........????

It's not rocket science...you have several easy variables. Cam positioning is the main one but pipe lengths and dia plus intake lengths and carb size come into play too.

Kick will remember a day at Levels where the mad pom had a ride on Colin's ZZR1100 and got off it fizzing about how easy it was to ride compared to the one in his bike which didn't come on till about 8 grand.

Historically NI engine builders have always gone for max power - having Puke and Manfield as the main circuits did that.
Down here midrange rules on Ruapuna and Levels. Teretonga is an anomaly in the SI...

Even our cam grinders differ - In my experience the NI companies will if anything overcam whereas Kelford have always preferred to slightly undercam.

[Drew]

It's not rocket science...you have several easy variables. Cam positioning is the main one but pipe lengths and dia plus intake lengths and carb size come into play too.

Kick will remember a day at Levels where the mad pom had a ride on Colin's ZZR1100 and got off it fizzing about how easy it was to ride compared to the one in his bike which didn't come on till about 8 grand.

Historically NI engine builders have always gone for max power - having Puke and Manfield as the main circuits did that.
Down here midrange rules on Ruapuna and Levels. Teretonga is an anomaly in the SI...

Even our cam grinders differ - In my experience the NI companies will if anything overcam whereas Kelford have always preferred to slightly undercam.

Up here, Manfield is the only track that max power is optimal in my opinion. Yes, Pukie has a huge straight but it's a fast track, not a drag strip track. A controlable bike over the hill will smash a peaky bike, and that sets you up for the part of the track where the most gains can be made. One need only look at the times for a 600 compared to a 1000, which are not a lot different in percentage to SI tracks.

I am told that Robbie Bugden doesn't use the over rev available from after market ecu on his superbike. That's second or third hand info and a few years old, but having had a squirt on a very wanked thou I would hazard it's true. A positive side effect of this, is that with the motor spinning slower on a big block solo, it makes for faster direction changes. Due to lessened gyroscopic effect, (I don't think that's the right terminology for what I want to convey...could be though).

[scrivy]

Drew, do not remove the big vented disc, and do not fit bike discs to the front end!! Seriously!

[Fast Eddie]

Drew making progress on his chair, Legend!

[Drew]

Drew, do not remove the big vented disc, and do not fit bike discs to the front end!! Seriously!

Okey dokey. You think they'll still cook?

If Kaiser (that's what my phone calls him after I type his name), Will post my pic of the shock mount up we can talk about something that Will work...I hope.

[Fast Eddie]

Okey dokey. You think they'll still cook?

If Kaiser (that's what my phone calls him after I type his name), Will post my pic of the shock mount up we can talk about something that Will work...I hope.

haha, I get called that a bit.. German after all..

I chucked a photo up.. or was there another one to go up? I need a shower, its been days.. Nitro Circus for us tonight.. Watch some wealthy red necks jump their dirt bikes

[scrivy]

Okey dokey. You think they'll still cook?

Absolutely they will cook if you use small thin bike ones! Try stopping your RF if it was double the weight! Lap after lap..... It'll fry!

I can't see from that pic, but is that rotor vented? I'll have a measure up of mine and let you know what I have - it obviously works a friggin treat - cause no fucker out brakes us...... Not even containers.....

[nodrog:Me]

Drew, do not remove the big vented disc, and do not fit bike discs to the front end!! Seriously!

Dont the MNZ rules say sidecars must run a cast disc anyway? Or do I just dream commonsense?

Okey dokey. You think they'll still cook?

If Kaiser (that's what my phone calls him after I type his name), Will post my pic of the shock mount up we can talk about something that Will work...I hope.

How far away from the headers is that puppy?

.... Nitro Circus for us tonight.. Watch some wealthy red necks jump their dirt bikes

Did you win lotto?

[scrivy]

How far away from the headers is that puppy?

Exactly what I was thinking too.....

[Fast Eddie]

I can't see from that pic, but is that rotor vented?

looks like it is from the pic.. can just see some venting if you look close enough

Did you win lotto?

nah - xmas present.

[Drew]

Exactly what I was thinking too.....

Further than the standard placement to the midpipe on my rf.

[nodrog:Me]

Further than the standard placement to the midpipe on my rf.

the shock on your RF is by the headers? thats retarded.

[Kornholio]

the shock on your RF is by the headers? thats retarded.

John Britten made it ow...

[jellywrestler]

John Britten made it ow...

john brittens shock is away from the headers and in the cool air flow, this was an idea from Steve Roberts, the man who built the plastic fantastic

[Kickaha]

Absolutely they will cook if you use small thin bike ones! Try stopping your RF if it was double the weight! Lap after lap..... It'll fry!

You should explain that to Johnny B seeing as he wont two NZ titles using bikes discs and calipers

I can't see from that pic, but is that rotor vented?

Interesting talking to a brake specialsit who said for the weight and speeds we do we'd easily get away with unvented discs

Dont the MNZ rules say sidecars must run a cast disc anyway? Or do I just dream commonsense?

The answer to both of those is NO

27.6.3a Only ferrous brakes disc’s are allowed.