pads in backwards? lockwired to valve stem?Originally Posted by Drew
i'm motarded
pads in backwards? lockwired to valve stem?
Ta
Not that bad. Got a mate who put a set of pads in the wrong way round in a V3000 though.
We seem to have chucked a bolt through the new torque arm mount, which doubles as a caliper mount, just to hold it....Then forgot about it.
Essentially the caliper had a bit of 'float', and eventually things would have gone tits up...Scrivy style.
Ta
Ian is happy with the chair now. So we are tech inspected and approved.
Does that mean the chair is finished? Don't be fucken stupid!
Fairing work starts tomorrow morning, there's a shit ton of work to be done to the main bodywork....and lots of parts need to be taken off the chair to be painted while we wait for fiber glass and bog to dry.
Joy of fucken joys.
Ta
So the body work is underway. There's a shit ton of glass work to do, followed by more prep for paint.
Pushing the chair out of the garage to get the fairing in a clear space and then pushing it back in, I have discovered an issue.
Does anyone know why the brake torque arms on the front end of a good chair, mount to the fork leg instead of the swingarm? I do, and I need to make more changes to ours.
i'm motarded
You can just mount the caliper on the swingarm
In the riders seat
Antidive...
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Forum whore
If the caliper is fixed to the swingarm, or if the torque arm connects to the swingarm, braking will make the front of the bike rise , the swingarm attempts to rotate with the disk, and it will also bind up operation of the suspension. If the torque arm goes back to the fork tube, this wont happen. Exactly like floating brake operation on a rear swingarm
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
Ta
Yep. Seems to be common knowledge.
Tell ya what though. When you get a chair and you are doing shit loads of work on it already, it's not exactly like you go out looking for stuff like this.
To sum up, I need to float our caliper assembly.
Ta
We've had our first proper race meeting now. The Barry Sheene was fantastic! We learned a lot, and had a great time in such a large field.
There's work to be done though. The brakes were certainly a weak point. With the anti dive like set up on it, I am reluctant to brake into a turn at all. So everyone brakes later than us. The torque arm should allow a compliant front end under brakes, so it's an easy fix.
But we got a look at something we had considered a while back and dismissed. The Ozzy 1 short chair, is running a single sided swingarm straight off a VFR400. We've got one of them, or at least can get it from a mates shed. So that'll be in there before the Tri series starts too.
Our swingarm is too short at the moment, so trying to get tension on the chain perfect to avoid slip when the rear compresses is near impossible.
On a positive note. FUCK OUR CHAIR IS FAST! Absolute monster off the line and down the straights, and will be even better with the swingarm allowing us to drop twenty kilos from the 33Kg rear wheel on it now.
Saving the goat....
Good shit Drew, glad you had fun!!
As for the brakes..... bolt the caliper to the swingarm. Dont fuck around. I've seen a few torque arms fail now.........Name one bike that outbrakes mine (even in Aussie...). It's safer and less weight too!
As for the suspension........ mines got none! Hasn't stopped us cornering or braking any slower than others.
Don't spend your precious time refining stuff, get on it and learn it.
Then upgrade to a better rig!
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
Ta
The caliper is mounted to the swingarm. That shuddering under hard braking you and I get, I think is caused by the shocks topping out and the tyre skipping.Good shit Drew, glad you had fun!!
As for the brakes..... bolt the caliper to the swingarm. Dont fuck around. I've seen a few torque arms fail now.........
As for the suspension........ mines got none! Hasn't stopped us cornering or braking any slower than others.
Don't spend your precious time refining stuff, get on it and learn it.
Then upgrade to a better rig!
I get what you're saying bro, and I sure can't remember you coming second in a battle of brakes. But I think that comes down to you just being really fucken good, and an animal to boot.
Oh yeah. Our idea of a torque arm, consists of one solid piece of 25x10 steel flat bar and a hole at each end. Many many things will let go and us be dead, before it ever gives us issue I should think.
All this time improving it, is not in vane. The chair will be a very good package when it comes time to sell in a year or so. It's not gonna be an $11K Windle of course, but it'll be good for who ever buys it and we'll do better for the work.
On a more positive note. The motor has certainly been tested fully, and we are confident that the oil feed and return systems are doing the proper job. So the pressure gauge that popped at Hampton last weekend wont be replaced, and we'll just stick with the over size warning light. (Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't chasing me)!
Forum whore
I can vouch for the speed off the line, how many did you pass before turn 1? It was like some giant had booted you up the backside! I hope you get the braking and turning sorted soon. You need Popeye's forearms as it stands.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Saving the goat....
Mines harder to steer than Drews.
All those years of spanking me monkey worked wonders.....
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
Ta
It turns in fine, it's holding a constant radius that things get hard.Mines harder to steer than Drews.
All those years of spanking me monkey worked wonders.....
Got it as steep as I can with the adjustable trail, things pretty wobbly till we generate some temp in the front hoop...Which if anyone gives it some thought, they'll realise how fucken dodgy that pitlane start first lap felt.
My fitness let us down more than the chair did, by a substantial margin. But that is getting work, along with the chair in the coming weeks.
Ta
Well, there's more work to do after the pile up at the weekend been.
Body work is at the shop being fixed, to give us some breathing room to fix the other things. List isn't too bad.
Throttle cables, handle bars, right knee cup support, muffler, and some fairing mounts.
By Christ I'm glad we're starting out on an old steel outfit! I imagine something like the Windle would be completely fucked after two flips like we've had.
Al got a couple pics of the fucked chair wheel cover, dunno if he took any others though.
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