FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

**Fast Eddie** · 15th December 2012, 13:15

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Kai, Phil and the AGIP bike probably give away 120kg + to the F2, plus Tracey/Jo have been riding a lot longer

If there is no replacement for displacement can you explain why as sidecars went to the 1000cc motors after the 1200cc limit was dropped at world level they got faster?

yea, they girls recon'd they weighed in at about 100/105kg together. I came off the scale at 92.8 just before and Phil claims 77 but he's lying.. it'll be closer to 80kg

hehe..
Don't even wanna think weight difference in bikes. I lifted pinky front end up by myself, I think we needed 3 lads to lift up Agip front.

shes fun to ride tho! can't wait for wangas, 11 days to go..

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Maybe but the Birchalls run an R1 and they run up the front, Tim Reeves ran a Honda and was up there to, Suzuki is just the easiest option as so many dickheads own them there's a readily avaliable supply of crashed bikes

Birchalls run an 08 R1 as apparently the crossplane doesn't work as good and even with the Suzukis most teams wouldn't run any thing later than an 08

Yea, Moly won on a Kawasaki motor, The hondas have a strong showing in Europe and the R1's ..

I was reading some other sidecar forum or thread where the dude was looking to go to a big bang R1 motor and most told him not to do it, go the earlier one..

**Weaver** · 15th December 2012, 15:06

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

I came off the scale at 92.8 just before and Phil claims 77 but he's lying.. it'll be closer to 80kg

Fuckin' who ate all the pies? I'm hoping Drew will drop a kilo or ten. I've weighed 71kg for the past six years. I'll bring a set of scales to the races to try get some psycological advantage.

**tail_end_charlie** · 15th December 2012, 15:11

Isnt' there a rough equation for calculating weight loss equivalent to hp increase. Like 7 lbs (3kg) lost is worth about 1 hp. Sounds like some of you lot need to sign on a lightweight swinger.......................................and rider...........................................

**Drew** · 15th December 2012, 16:06

I should be under 90 before we race Al.

Won't be a problem once the bug catcher performance parts go on.

**Kickaha** · 15th December 2012, 16:09

Originally Posted by Weaver

Fuckin' who ate all the pies?

Pig did,looking at the size of him I think he ate the people who baked them as well

**Drew** · 19th December 2012, 15:00

EXCELLENT progress today!

Stripped the guts out of the bung motor, and by Christ is it bung! Now we've got a lump that is actually manageable, to make mounts and changes as required.

Chucked our new dummy block in and discovered that the last owner had been using a shallow sump, but just didn't have a baffle in it and still had a doglegged oil pickup. So the height of the motor is as low as it will go already. Hmmm, that'd be an issue since I could barely reach the bars. But turns out I can do something a bit different with the airbox and all becomes honky dory! Pic to come if Alan can be bothered taking some. The ones on my phone are shit.

So, the list gets shorter again!

Good work TEAM!

**scrivy** · 19th December 2012, 16:23

Originally Posted by Drew

EXCELLENT progress today!
So, the list gets shorter again!

Good work TEAM!

Good shit dude!! Why do you need an airbox?? Make do without it. More room for your T-rex arms to reach the bars.....

**nodrog:Me** · 19th December 2012, 16:41

Originally Posted by scrivy

Good shit dude!! Why do you need an airbox?? Make do without it. More room for your T-rex arms to reach the bars.....

sounds like his stomach is more of the problem

**Drew** · 19th December 2012, 17:49

Originally Posted by scrivy

Good shit dude!! Why do you need an airbox?? Make do without it. More room for your T-rex arms to reach the bars.....

An inlet plenum is usually a good idea on most motors, and without an airbox I'm likely to lie on the intake and have it run Gory styles.

Originally Posted by nodrog

sounds like his stomach is more of the problem

Fat guts or no, I can and have wired up several vehicles in my time.

**jellywrestler** · 19th December 2012, 17:52

Originally Posted by Weaver

I've weighed 71kg for the past six years.

try shaving your hair, most peoples hair weights fuck all but yours being Ginger weighs in a lot more, kinda like dog years to human years.

**Weaver** · 19th December 2012, 17:52

Also just purchased an alloy wheel for the back, to replace the steel rim so heavy I get roid-rage lifting it in and out.

**Kickaha** · 19th December 2012, 18:44

Originally Posted by nodrog

sounds like his stomach is more of the problem

Probably cause he's a tubby little fucker

Originally Posted by Weaver

Also just purchased an alloy wheel for the back, to replace the steel rim so heavy I get roid-rage lifting it in and out.

Something off the shelf with the right offset and stud pattern? did you check the weight first sometimes there's fuck all difference

**sidecar bob** · 19th December 2012, 19:09

Looking at your pic, the engine seems a long way back. Front axle to crankshaft is a fairly critical mesurement on short outfits.
Pinky's is 670mm ish & the crank is at axle height give or take 10mm. Pinky has long been regarded as one of the best handling short outfits, not just in NZ.

**Kickaha** · 19th December 2012, 19:22

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Looking at your pic, the engine seems a long way back. Front axle to crankshaft is a fairly critical mesurement on short outfits.
Pinky's is 670mm ish & the crank is at axle height give or take 10mm. Pinky has long been regarded as one of the best handling short outfits, not just in NZ.

You'd need to compare wheelbase as well or weigh it on 3 scales and work out what percentage of weight is on each wheel