Bogeyman
You bloody maniac! Get on your own side of the road!Originally Posted by Maha
And no, I saw cars in ever dip well before I reached the crest.
Also, I'm with Drew. I can't wheelie the Buell at 100k but just standing on the Uly makes your horizon stretch a long way.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
NEDWN VIII
I was going to load it going the other way but there is a truck in front the whole length of the 2.5km stretch of road, so I turned it around, same but different.
Coal Burning XV Rider!
It's a good bit of road, I rode it again on Saturday last, love it. Lot's of driveways on it and keeping eyes and ears, as well as hands over levers is a good idea.
There are a couple of corners where the indicated ( sigh posted) speeds are pretty darned accurate,otherwise there's really no need to brake for almost all of the cresting corners there if you're doing it right.Visibility is almost always very good even through the twisty climbing bits.
If it was one of yours Maha I'd expect you to shepherd them, otherwise get past quick as ya can and leave em to their wet pants and bad dreams, most likely they shouldn't be on a road like that at this stage in their riding career.
My dad taught me to decelerate ( not brake, not lose speed, just lift foot off for a split second)as you crest a rise, see whats there and then reapply throttle as and when appropriate.
Works well, leaves you plenty of time to do whatever you need to do once the road ahead has become clear.This works just as well on a bike.
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Hardcore Biker
With the exception of junctions, roundabouts and emergency situations, I cant see any reason why anyone would need to use their brakes on the road to negotiate most corners. Planning ahead and effective use of engine braking is all that most people would need, unless your doing over 100 kph of course, in which case your going to a firey pit of doom! Riding the twisties without brakes took me a while to get the hang of and is way smoother than stop / start cornering.
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Well if I drove then probably but I always er on the side of caution when I can't see the road clearly or feel uneasy. Anyway I'm a woman so I will just pop back to the kitchen.
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
Anarchic Wild Child
It woud depend on the speed I was doing, but on a strange road I would button off a little, in a cage and on a bike (or maybe just be aware that the road might do something stupid just over the top) ... because I would not know which way the road went over the crest - there are no road signs on that stretch which tells me it probably goes straight - or so straight as it doesn't matter - but it pays to be alive after the crest as well ... and I'd rather be alive and have people like you think of me as a "mattress munching homo" than a dead bullshit "hero".
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Grumpy Old Bastard
I've ridden that road a few times. Don't usually brake but then I never blast over the top of a hill sight unseen either. I just keep the speed at a point where I can stop if I have to.
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Fully qualified Sifter.
Yeah I've no problem with caution actually though mate. So unbunch ya panties. But the crest(s) in question don't really require slowing down or braking now do they?
By the way...I've seen plenty of 'hero' remarks from you in the past.
Fully qualified Sifter.
Nothing wrong with that Hels. I tend to use a bit of caution myself.
Forum whore
I'm sure you'll make a lovely couple.
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Up the bum no babies.
Anarchic Wild Child
Fuck .. you were quick off the mark - must have been responding when I was still editing - 'cause that's an old version of the post and I removed the offensive and insulting stuff ... because I thought it was a little OTT ... especially as it was you and not some other dicks here.
The crest in question is a little deceptive - it's a little more crested than it appears in that two-dimensional representation ...
And yeah I can be a "bullshit hero" on the road ... that depends on your definition of "bullshit hero" ... but the main thing is, after 39 years of riding (and being a little crazy) I'm still alive ... even if occassionally I scare the shit out of myself ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Fully qualified Sifter.
That's me!
'Other dicks'? Apology accepted then! We'll have a cuddle some time then.
And I have no doubt we've all been dicks on the roads at times. I used to be all the time. It's why I decided to go road racing. Best thing I ever did.
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I've ridden the road a few times, didn't find any major issues. Sitting at 100-110 you get good visibility ahead, but if there were big rises, then yes, I have backed off for the odd ones (not braking though) just to give myself some more space.
The other thing I have an issue with, is some say they are happy to go faster (or slow down less) when familiar with the road... Why? You could have been through it 30min before, but it doesn't mean there isn't going to be a tanker pulling out of a driveway over the crest (or insert other hazard). If anything, roads I've done very frequently I might go slower, as I've experienced so many issues in various places.
Lost In Translation
+1.It's a good bit of road, I rode it again on Saturday last, love it. Lot's of driveways on it and keeping eyes and ears, as well as hands over levers is a good idea.
There are a couple of corners where the indicated ( sigh posted) speeds are pretty darned accurate,otherwise there's really no need to brake for almost all of the cresting corners there if you're doing it right.Visibility is almost always very good even through the twisty climbing bits.
If it was one of yours Maha I'd expect you to shepherd them, otherwise get past quick as ya can and leave em to their wet pants and bad dreams, most likely they shouldn't be on a road like that at this stage in their riding career.
My dad taught me to decelerate ( not brake, not lose speed, just lift foot off for a split second)as you crest a rise, see whats there and then reapply throttle as and when appropriate.
Works well, leaves you plenty of time to do whatever you need to do once the road ahead has become clear.This works just as well on a bike.
There was a forested, dipping, twisting road from where we lived to the main road (beautiful road). My step-dad told me to teach myself to drive it comfortably without needing to brake. It was a great learning experience.
But I believe the best bit of roadcraft advice I have ever taken on board was to match speed with vision.
That was from the Porsche Driver's Handbook (which is the closest I have ever got Stuttgart's finest) which was written by a couple of UK Police Driver Training dudes. The beauty of this advice is that it works just about everywhere. On congested city streets. When there are gaps in traffic obscured by big trucks. On bends. And the book specifically tells you to treat a crest as a vertical bend.
So I'd be up on the pegs to gain vision if needed but then at the moderate speed I ride, I wouldn't be at risk of being blown off the back!
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