Just another ACC thread

[That looks like fun]

Latest gripe about the rip off ACC system (sorry about that). Basically I am pissed off and letting off steam so if your sick of moaners this is your chance to quietly back away from the thread

My wife earlier this year almost (yes almost) fell off her beloved 650 Boulevard a car pulled in front of her on a roundabout she grabbed to much front brake and came to a halt off balance
Instead of letting the bike drop she pulled it back upright Due to the fact she is no amazon warrior (but I love her anyway ) she sprained her back.
Saw the GP, registered the injury with ACC, sat round swallowing the painkillers they gave her and started to come right then one night she missed the bed (honest I never moved it and thats all the questions your allowed ok) and landed on her very nice bum, the result being back not so good anymore.
Soooooooooooo....... (if the story is too long I am sorry but thats the way it is sometimes) she goes to a chiropractor, he takes xrays and 500 bucks then jumps on her and she has been in pain ever since, apparently he was very (Tui Add here) concerned as he had never had anyones spine move that far or heard a scream that loud when he jumped on them, he was really sorry (another tui add here would be good) and gave her a nice back rub
But wait there is more!!! She then went and hurt her back again picking up the clothes horse and carrying it inside. You would think she would be more careful when doing womens work but nooooooooooo .
After another (partially funded ) visit to the GP and it is decided to send her to a Specialist. Not a bad idea at all as by now all she can do is live in the lazy boy arm chair and cry because of the pain she is in. Its been almost 6 months of pain since the first injury so yes, she is getting a bit down.
Specialist sends her for an MRI and opps, four broken vertabrae in her spine (yeah four). Have I mentioned that by now the ACC case manager phone calls have started? You know the ones, "when are you going to get well? Why arnt you back at work? all those shit calls that make you so pleased to be recieving such awesome service after all that you have invested in the wonderful ACC system over the years, ah what the hell, stick another Tui Add in here)
Fortunatley the wonderful specialist decided she might have a pre existing medical condition that has caused the fractures?
Bone density tests reveal she has Osteoporisis Now I wont tell how old she is as I still use my testicles ocasionally but she is not an old woman. As it turns out a major contributing factor to Osteo is long term exposure to steriods, in particular one type that is used in a certain type of Asthma medication, prescribed for my wife by (yep you guessed it) her GP. 5 minutes by me on the internet researching Osteo told me she needed to get off the shit, so how come a fully qualified pill dispensor has had her on it for thirty feckin years!!!
Sooooooo................. (but wait there's more) ACC decide that as she has a medical condition that has CAUSED her vertebrae to break, she is off ACC and back to work as far as they are concerned.

So to sum it up, after a series of small oops (going back to January 2012) my wife goes to an ACC provider for treatment (the chiropractor)
He takes xrays, then performs what they politley call a "manipulation" putting her in so much pain she cannot move from a lazy boy chair without help to stand, walk or even go to the toilet)
She further aggrevates the injury by picking up an awkward object
MRI reveals 4 broken vertabrae (hang about, how come the xray never showed them, I thought these chiropractors were back specialist? Maybe they werent there before the xrays!!!!!)
ACC throws her off there books because she has Osteo
ACC wont even pay for Physio

Osteo never broke her Vertabrae. In my opinion an ACC provider did (the chiropractor)
She may have developed Osteo at a later stage in life anyway (some woman do), but scientific proof shows that the medication prescribed to her by an ACC Provider (her GP) contributes to an early onset of Osteo
Even though she can no longer claim for ACC if she breaks a bone but we still have to pay the shit.

Osteo does not break bones, yes it makes them easier to break but accidents is what breaks them. Thats what ACC is supposed to cover. Because of ACC all the providers who have contributed to fucking (sorry about the use of french) up my wife get off scot free, They cant be held accountable as ACC removes the right to sue.

11 months later, she is still in huge pain, cant work, is on the verge of tears almost constantly and I am feckin angry

On the plus side, the Chiropractor gave the $500 back (least he could do, the prick)

[Bald Eagle]

Shoot the chiripractor and tell him the lead poisoning is a pre existing condition from the old plumbing in his house, so he cant get ACC

[Katman]

5 minutes by me on the internet researching Osteo told me she needed to get off the shit, so how come a fully qualified pill dispensor has had her on it for thirty feckin years!!!

Doctors prescribe whatever drug is being produced by whichever drug company provides their greatest funding.

People need to seriously consider doing their own research and relying on natural remedies rather than on the medical profession.

[bucket boy]

Did you appeal there decision.

[jasonu]

Doctors prescribe whatever drug is being produced by whichever drug company provides their greatest funding.

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Not to mention the back handers the medical companies give the quacks for prescribing their drugs.

[That looks like fun]

Did we appeal the decision? I want my wife to but she is such an emotional train wreck at present I dont think she wants to fight anyone. Not even me
Legal advice seems to be that we need to find a specialist who will dissagree with the other specialist.
How has the system changed from a no fault system to this? It shouldnt matter why her bones broke, merely that it was an accident. I am pretty sure she didnt deliberatly break em.
The precedent becomes now that ACC need no longer accept claims for assistance if a pre existing medical condition exists. EG: if you are prone to dizzy spells and fall and hurt yourself, tough luck boy'o (Fortunatly my wife is not prone to dizzy spells).
Should she fall and break a bone though, its sorry but no ACC. You have a pre existing medical condition

Ok, fair enough Mr ACC, you wont contribute to her accident costs, how come she still has to pay all your levies?

[tri boy]

I feel for ya missus col.
Fighting ACC shouldn't have to be the way to go.
Try and get all the paperwork and timelines sorted, find a helpful,(not on their kickback system) specialist, and go get em.
12mths will pass by as they give you the run around, but just stay in their face and piss them off as much as possible.
They're not nice, and don't play by the rules, so don't be soft on them.
MHO

[bucket boy]

Theres were the problem is people not willing to stand up and fight when you think you are right.My wife had a similar drama with ACC ,and while we were waiting for them to come back about operating it fixed itself.but we still wanted it down on record that it was from a accident she didnt take anytime of work at all as we areself employed.About 6 weeks later we get a letter saying its diogenerate and not the cause.My wife is 33 and only been a chef it happened when she was lifting my wheelchair into carboot and blew 2 disc.We appealed it and right from the start we said that we dont want it opperated on as it seemed to have fixed itself,we just wanted it noted for later on down the track.And we beet the big mighty ACC.
FYI hear is a bit of useless info,Our friends own a motel with a conferenece room hear in tauranga that they did hire out 2 days aweek to acc for reviews .They now do it 3 times a week plus 2 other motels are doing the same thing so that is a lot of reviews and if people are backing down all the time Acc wins

[mashman]

That's fuckin shite, total and utter fuckin shite. As you say, you've paid into the social insurance, why aren't you covered. My ex-boss used to do TKD and fucked his knee, they gave him the runaround and he appealed and won. I can't believe that anyone would have to appeal where a person is in such pain. I know it doesn't help, but get fuckin stuck in about 'em, make them think twice about doing it to the next person.

[That looks like fun]

Theres were the problem is people not willing to stand up and fight when you think you are right.My wife had a similar drama with ACC ,and while we were waiting for them to come back about operating it fixed itself.but we still wanted it down on record that it was from a accident she didnt take anytime of work at all as we areself employed.About 6 weeks later we get a letter saying its diogenerate and not the cause.My wife is 33 and only been a chef it happened when she was lifting my wheelchair into carboot and blew 2 disc.We appealed it and right from the start we said that we dont want it opperated on as it seemed to have fixed itself,we just wanted it noted for later on down the track.And we beet the big mighty ACC.
FYI hear is a bit of useless info,Our friends own a motel with a conferenece room hear in tauranga that they did hire out 2 days aweek to acc for reviews .They now do it 3 times a week plus 2 other motels are doing the same thing so that is a lot of reviews and if people are backing down all the time Acc wins

If the buggers spent less money on motel rooms and legal costs for reviews they might be able to assist people hurt in accidents.
I would love to help her fight them but, my first concern is the wife
However I do have a plan, tomorrow I will celebrate Xmas with her and the kids, and not let a darn thing worry me all day
Then next year if she dont want to stick it to the heartless money grubbing bastards
I will do it for her

[xXGIBBOXx]

sorry to hear about your wife , its not prednisone is it ? i was on it for bout 3 years and it put 10 years my back . my back goes out without trying . have you tryed yoga ? its a bit hippie but 20 minute of lying on the floor looking like a dick helps

[caseye]

I searched out the Auckland law Societies top ACC fighting solicitor.
We agreed a no win no pay situation.
He won my review in 15 minutes.
I now have to pay him nearly half of what I get from ACC.
But before this is was half of nothing!
ACC have thrown everything into denying me a fair weekly compensation.
I took my solicitors advice, stopped getting mad, talked politely and didn't lose my temper with them,wrote down time, date, who I spoke to at ACC ( or specialists, etc), what was said by who.
Got my time line sorted and asked all people I was referred to how I got a copy of their report to ACC.
It's been nearly 9 months now and as of last week they paid up.
It has been ongoing for this long and we've had no assistance from ACC, Income support, WINZ none of the pricks!
I'd gladly give you my solicitors name and contact, I'm sure he'd be happy to work something out for you.
PM sent, if you want it use it.

[Edbear]

If the buggers spent less money on motel rooms and legal costs for reviews they might be able to assist people hurt in accidents.
I would love to help her fight them but, my first concern is the wife
However I do have a plan, tomorrow I will celebrate Xmas with her and the kids, and not let a darn thing worry me all day
Then next year if she dont want to stick it to the heartless money grubbing bastards
I will do it for her

PM me. I'm going through a similar scenario right now.

[MIZXR]

Don't piss round with them get a ACC layer and get on to it as soon as possible. The longer you wait the harder it will be. The most stress you face is waiting and a plead your case it's not that bad. You will still want to kill every ACC worker you come across but they ask for that.
Don't tell them you about to kill yourself they just send cops around.

They turn down as many as possible and their doctors are corrupt, they are paid to turn people down dont lose heart.. fight.
I've got a permently fubard arm thanks to them not fixing it for 2 years that I have to go for a new fight to get it fixed again and get to rest happy in the knowledge that if it gets worse I get to live with no income.. and its getting worse.

Acc layers are not that bad to pay for either.

[curly]

Appeal the decision.

...major contributing factor to Osteo is long term exposure to steriods, in particular one type that is used in a certain type of Asthma medication, prescribed for my wife by...

What's the type of asthma medication?