Paying child support

[Duke girl]

I had a question that needed answering regarding Child Support (Paying Parent) so I rang up Inland Revenue to ask if a parent who is paying child support still has to pay it after that child leaves the country with the parent to whom it is living with.
I got told that as long as that parent is a NZ Citizen then yes I still have to pay Child Support regardless of where in the world they are living.
I would like to know what your point of view is on this matter and is there anyone else in this same situation?.

[onearmedbandit]

Eh? You only have to pay child support through the IRD if the child's parent is on the DPB. If they are working for example, you can have your own arrangement. At least that is how I understand it.

[Mom]

Eh? You only have to pay child support through the IRD if the child's parent is on the DPB. If they are working for example, you can have your own arrangement. At least that is how I understand it.

Emphasis on you can have your own arangement. Sadly not all couples manage that and one parent refuses to pay anything. Then you end up at IRD getting them to collect for you. Much easier if you just agree to pay something towards the care of you children I would have thought. Some like to use the with holding of money as a bit of a punishment to the other parent you see, forgetting there are children invloved.

[JimO]

Some like to use the with holding of money as a bit of a punishment to the other parent you see, forgetting there are children invloved.

some withold the access to the children as a bit of a punishment as well, then the other party thinks no kids no money

[MSTRS:Me]

If the custodial parent has left the country, then one can assume that they are not on a benefit. So nothing to pay there.
If IRD were collecting and passing on, one would assume that they are either still able to pass on (pay as usual) or not able to pass on (why should you pay, then...it's not going where it's supposed to)

[Duke girl]

My issue is why should I have to pay child support when I will never get to see when I want to nor spend time with the child who I am paying child support for because of the miles between us. Not fair.

[Bald Eagle]

My issue is why should I have to pay child support when I will never get to see when I want to nor spend time with the child who I am paying child support for because of the miles between us. Not fair.

child
support was never meant to be fair it's the systems punishment for failing the social model of being a family.

[phill-k]

To answer your first question, admittedly based on information back when the IRD took over responsibility for collecting Child support payments. The IRD or more specifically the act that enables the IRD to operate does not make provision for IRD to legally remit funds overseas - i.e. their is no legislation governing them remitting funds overseas. Thus they can not remit your payments, ask the question.
It is my understanding of the the custody laws that both parents must agree to a child that is a party to an order, being removed from the country, wasn't the case when I went down this road but has since been changed - did you agree to the child's removal?, and if so you should have (read did) arranged to make child support payments directly with the other party,if necessary create a document agreeing to this and sign it for both parties = they won't bother pursuing it.

[Mudfart]

thats right, you could have gotten and signed a "right of non-removal order", before your kid was taken away.
This document states the child must stay within a certain area for you to have access to visiting.
Now that the kid is out of country, it wouldnt apply.
Of course, child support services would not give this information easily, as govt departments dont like for joe public to know their rights.
It makes knowledge too powerful............and costly.............YOU? you mean nothing to them, they as a collective, have no "feelings" or empathy towards you.

[rickstv]

My ex tried to take my 6yr old daughter to the UK permanently without me knowing. Turns out that is classed as abduction.

you may be able to stop your ex from taking your child out of the country by simply not agreeing to it.

my ex and I had a child support agreement in place, so IRD were not involved.

I hope it all works out fine for you.

Rick.

[p.dath]

I had a question that needed answering regarding Child Support (Paying Parent) so I rang up Inland Revenue to ask if a parent who is paying child support still has to pay it after that child leaves the country with the parent to whom it is living with.
I got told that as long as that parent is a NZ Citizen then yes I still have to pay Child Support regardless of where in the world they are living.
I would like to know what your point of view is on this matter and is there anyone else in this same situation?.

The custodial parent is going to incurr a cost to provide the care no matter where they live, so I guess it is fair.

[mashman]

If you legally can get out of it... and if you can afford it... tell "them" that you will make the payments, but to a trust account in your childs name. That should please the red tape brigade?... If you don't ask!

[Wannabiker]

As I understood it, you are liable until the child reaches 19, OR becomes a wage earner, or recieves living allowance. You could argue a non removal order...but more likely to succeed if the child is younger. Over 14 years old and they pretty much have the final say. I fought for (and got) a non removal order for my son at age of 12, but he did want to remain close to me. If he had of wanted to go, I would have had a bigger challenge.

[davebullet]

My issue is why should I have to pay child support when I will never get to see when I want to nor spend time with the child who I am paying child support for because of the miles between us. Not fair.

Or... you have an obligation to contribute to the finanical upkeep of your child, regardless of their residence. You don't pay child support only if you can play with them. (It's not like a DVD rental).

[Howie]

To answer your first question, admittedly based on information back when the IRD took over responsibility for collecting Child support payments. The IRD or more specifically the act that enables the IRD to operate does not make provision for IRD to legally remit funds overseas - i.e. their is no legislation governing them remitting funds overseas. Thus they can not remit your payments, ask the question.

This depends on the country involved, there is a reciprocal agreement between Australia, and NZ. a bit of info on it Here

My issue is why should I have to pay child support when I will never get to see when I want to nor spend time with the child who I am paying child support for because of the miles between us. Not fair.

Well the money you are paying is to help support the child. However in my view the whole Child support system needs an overhaul in my view, and I am saying that as a single parent who has his children living with him, they seem to be massive varience's in the amount of money the paying parent has to pay from those who limit there income to pay the mimimum of about $15 dollars a week through to those who end up paying several hundred a week if they are on a good income. The best answer is to have a Private agreement if both parents can agree to, and honour it.