Traffic planner brain fade

[awa355]

Dont you have to be 'educated' and go to university to get qualifications to be a traffic planner, civil engineer or whatever the job description is?

Just as well. they dont let some 'dumb' bastard design these intersections/traffic light layouts.

[Paul in NZ]

Just the other week some hobbit footed foul hippie soiled our doorstep with yet another petiotion trying to prevent the new motorway through kapiti. Miss Vicki having been trapped in traffic for several hours while trying valiently to perform her job of work around the Kapiti Coast sent him on his way with a resounding 'fuck off'.

While we may well argue the details of anysuch project the need for it cannot be denighed. The traffic around here over the summer has been insane... sigh....

I think the lights at Otaki are either a sop to the shop keepers worried that raffic was moving too fast or a knee jerk to the issues in wellington...

[Shadows]

I'm sure that if you'd just take the time to brows a while amongst Bendon's fluffiest you'd be a great deal less stressed about the whole issue.

Wow. Most of the other engineering types I know would just say "get a root"!

[Zedder]

Dont you have to be 'educated' and go to university to get qualifications to be a traffic planner, civil engineer or whatever the job description is?

Just as well. they dont let some 'dumb' bastard design these intersections/traffic light layouts.

Yep, traffic engineering is a branch of civil engineering and university or polytech graduates can do it. That was the case in my day anyway.

I may have been a bit harsh on Uni types earlier but the best guys seemed to come from polytechs because they combined theory with practice very well.

[Ocean1]

Wow. Most of the other engineering types I know would just say "get a root"!

Can you think of a better place to find one?

[bogan]

I may have been a bit harsh on Uni types earlier but the best guys seemed to come from polytechs because they combined theory with practice very well.

Seemed is probably the operative word here. The uni guys are taught to a higher level, perhaps a level some others struggle to grasp. This thread is a good example with the OP's assumptions refuted by caspernz, who iirc is a professional driver.

Course, the alternate side of things, often the uni level only has a tenuous grasp on reality. The best guys are those with a firm hold on both, rare from fresh uni graduates, even rarer from polytech.

[FJRider]

I thought the rational was pretty transparent to be honest. Get 'em stranded and siphon some of their pocket change.

To slow and/or stop traffic in towns and cities ... in the hope of getting them to "notice" the shops ... and spend money in them.
One reason most town/city councils only want to provide heavy traffic bypass's ... Truckies don't (can't) stop.

[pete376403]

Traffic engineers/planners, "interesting people" that they are.

When I was involved in roading (pavement engineering) they were always at odds with us. They're like architects and the theory versus practical aspects of building design and construction.

Nothing new under the sun. This is a cartoon from (warning: old people stuff follows) by Nevile Lodge published in the "Evening Post" paper in 1952. Chances are Ditherby went on to become head of planning and wrote the manual that todays "planners" follow.

[Zedder]

Seemed is probably the operative word here. The uni guys are taught to a higher level, perhaps a level some others struggle to grasp. This thread is a good example with the OP's assumptions refuted by caspernz, who iirc is a professional driver.

Course, the alternate side of things, often the uni level only has a tenuous grasp on reality. The best guys are those with a firm hold on both, rare from fresh uni graduates, even rarer from polytech.

The uni graduates were over taught theory if anything. Polytech grads hit the ground running usually but in the end both types got ironed out on the job due to roading being what it is.

[DEATH_INC.]

Look on the bright side, at least the roundabout at Otaki is one you can see over...I reckon the NZTA dimwit that stipulated planting anything that grows taller than a rednecks lawn on it...should be hung by the bollocks

NOOOOOOO!!!!! the best roundabouts are large, have 1 lane and large trees/bushes hiding the other side. If dickeheads (oops, I mean drivers) can see the roundabout, they will refuse to go onto it until it's clear. At least if the other side is obscured they will feel safe to go.
Why do you want to see across it?

[Shadows]

Can you think of a better place to find one?

I don't make a habit of hanging around lingerie shops in Otaki - but you could be on to something.

[Ocean1]

Why do you want to see across it?

I suspect it makes driving over the fuckers easier.

Some of those roundabouts wern't built with large rigs in mind.

[BMWST?]

so you can see the traffic coming so you can make an judgement wether you can cross or not.Ulike the POS at Maungaraki where you are forced to stop becaiuse you cant see if the way is clear.Once 20 or 30 cars are in the queue it backs up onto SH2.

[FJRider]

so you can see the traffic coming so you can make an judgement wether you can cross or not.Ulike the POS at Maungaraki where you are forced to stop becaiuse you cant see if the way is clear.Once 20 or 30 cars are in the queue it backs up onto SH2.

As all vehicles travel at such a speed ... that they are able to stop in half of the clear distance of roadway ahead.

It's written in legislation ... so they should be anyway.

And considering the entrance's to roundabouts are controlled by Give Way signs ... and Kiwi drivers don't even stop for STOP signs. Why then do they stop for give way signs .. ???

[DEATH_INC.]

so you can see the traffic coming so you can make an judgement wether you can cross or not.Ulike the POS at Maungaraki where you are forced to stop becaiuse you cant see if the way is clear.Once 20 or 30 cars are in the queue it backs up onto SH2.

I don't understand this....if there's no-one on your 1/4 of it, what's the problem?