Machinery talk thread

**Moi** · 1st October 2014, 21:52

Saw this vessel a week or so before she was launched - built in Palm Nth and transported to Foxton Beach in two parts.

**rebel** · 3rd October 2014, 20:04

Ah yes, that oversized was the scene of the fatal crash first or second week of the year when a truck sanwiched a car between another truck half way between Sanson & Foxton.

A couple of months ago we had a 730hp Scania in as a demo. Too quiet for my liking. Interior is the BMW/Mercedes of trucks not a bad place to be.
A couple of twin steer tri drive 730 are in the pipeline but the whole mining game has slowed down so there is no rush.
Still looks lame compared to the Western Stars.

These are good breakdowns, when they can't be repaired on the side of the road, load the rescue truck and drive up to 450km to mine site. This day I managed to get the truck I was picking up going, so didnt need to unload, easy money. 200 tonne rated KW, 580 Scania yard truck with over 1.3m km.

**awa355** · 4th October 2014, 04:47

One persons version of the nine biggest machines. Interesting that most were built back in the 1960's - 70's.

http://a-el.blogspot.co.nz/2011/06/m...g-vehicle.html

**awa355** · 4th October 2014, 06:14

An old clip from the 1940's. Logging the Redwoods. No OSH back then. No big machines, just big trees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb_YNZn_kaQ

**R650R** · 22nd November 2014, 18:36

Bit of kiwi infrastructure history.... some pretty cool clips of construction workers doing crazy stuff before the days of OSH.

**awa355** · 23rd November 2014, 04:37

A great film. Watched the entire clip, the infrastructure of this country would never had been built if done under todays 'PC' climate.

Not one fat worker either. It is hard to imagine the amount of planning done before hand, all done without laptops, etc. I wonder what the cost of the project would have been, back then.

**speights_bud** · 23rd November 2014, 08:05

Originally Posted by awa355

Not one fat worker either. It is hard to imagine the amount of planning done before hand, all done without laptops, etc. I wonder what the cost of the project would have been, back then.

Awesome video alright. You know what, I reckon the cost of the project would have been much much less back then.

Now days big greedy corporates would run it into billions of dollars and all the health and safety crap would make it take weeks to erect each tower, not a days labour for half a dozen men.

As an example, designing a new logo for a company like Telecom costs around 500k. The same project for a graphic designer working on a smaller business will charge around 2-5k.... Bullshit...

**R650R** · 23rd November 2014, 11:11

Originally Posted by speights_bud

As an example, designing a new logo for a company like Telecom costs around 500k. The same project for a graphic designer working on a smaller business will charge around 2-5k.... Bullshit...

Have you ever worked with big companies in related areas??? They can be very finicky and they usually have more expensive lawyers on their payroll than the average small business.
Recently did some work with major manufacturer, you wouldn't believe how fussy they are over finer details. The slightest thing can scupper hours or days of work back to square one.

**speights_bud** · 23rd November 2014, 12:33

Originally Posted by R650R

Have you ever worked with big companies in related areas??? They can be very finicky and they usually have more expensive lawyers on their payroll than the average small business.
Recently did some work with major manufacturer, you wouldn't believe how fussy they are over finer details. The slightest thing can scupper hours or days of work back to square one.

My sister is a graphic designer, she started in small business here and has worked as manager for Fuji Europe's design team before moving back to nz. Like you say, the more people who are involved the harder it is to come to a final design. At the end of the day the same result can often be achieved without all the Bullshit.... I do know a few other designers who agree with me. Often the businesses are paying for the thesis written about why the company logo designed is so awesome. Just like interpreting art I suppose. I haven't heard anyone say wow cool, telecom's scribble looks like good value for money.

Did you see the one about the absolutely Wellington logo design?

Just my opinion, I'm a machinist not a big business guru... But anyway back to the machinery...

http://youtu.be/WgftvXM5hTI

**ruaphu** · 23rd November 2014, 14:50

Originally Posted by awa355

A great film. Watched the entire clip, the infrastructure of this country would never had been built if done under todays 'PC' climate.
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Yeah cool vid. Dunno about ya theory about the PC climate. That Waikato to Auckland 400kV line to provide more power to Auckland is just finishing up eh. Even with all the opposition to it, vital infrastructure won over in the end. One very complex project completed on budget, on time and no fatalities, good stuff.

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**ruaphu** · 23rd November 2014, 14:59

Originally Posted by speights_bud

and all the health and safety crap would make it take weeks to erect each tower, not a days labour for half a dozen men....

Jez fella, i dunno, i like the fact that 'health and safety crap' as you call it helps ensure i go home alive and in one piece to my family at the end of the day, as do my fellow mates.

We are still killing too many of us workers with piss poor h&s attitudes eh.

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**speights_bud** · 23rd November 2014, 15:25

Originally Posted by ruaphu

Jez fella, i dunno, i like the fact that 'health and safety crap' as you call it helps ensure i go home alive and in one piece to my family at the end of the day, as do my fellow mates.

We are still killing too many of us workers with piss poor h&s attitudes eh.

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This is true. Do you think stronger unions would help workers to improve their work places? Lots of changes to H&S laws recently. Trouble is all the older managers etc at the top of the ladders finding out they can't get away with what they have in the past. Shit can now flow uphill believe it or not. About time.

Just look at the current situation with the petrol stations docking employees pay for drive offs. To be fair employees should know that's not kosher...