Which fork springs for a Bandit?

[wasiler]

By the way, my new springs are great.

Hey, did you use the online Race Tech calculator for your weight and bike to determine the best spring rate? If so, I guess you checked your sag and was it closer to what you were looking for? I have a coworker/friend that is looking for stiffer springs on his Kawi. The zip tie on his forks has no room for error. He wants to bump it up a little. Those prices are pretty good too at Race Tech. You can't go wrong with that brand. I had several friends back in Vegas that used them on the racing circuit.

[Madness]

Do they offer a discount for being thick?

[wasiler]

Hey, did you use the online Race Tech calculator for your weight and bike to determine the best spring rate? If so, I guess you checked your sag and was it closer to what you were looking for? I have a coworker/friend that is looking for stiffer springs on his Kawi. The zip tie on his forks has no room for error. He wants to bump it up a little. Those prices are pretty good too at Race Tech. You can't go wrong with that brand. I had several friends back in Vegas that used them on the racing circuit.

Never mind my earlier post, it is just Hooke's law and they give the stock spring rate. I will just work from that information. Thanks for reminding me of this brand. I will pass along their website to him.

[nzspokes]

Hey, did you use the online Race Tech calculator for your weight and bike to determine the best spring rate? If so, I guess you checked your sag and was it closer to what you were looking for? I have a coworker/friend that is looking for stiffer springs on his Kawi. The zip tie on his forks has no room for error. He wants to bump it up a little. Those prices are pretty good too at Race Tech. You can't go wrong with that brand. I had several friends back in Vegas that used them on the racing circuit.

I did use that but spoke to Dale at Holeshot Performance who is a Bandit specialist. Both can back with the spring weight I got. Sag is perfect to what they say. He gave me some advice for other parts of the bike which has been bang on. Will be getting some other stuff from him as money allows.

Springs cost $135 plus freight, but that was in with other gear I got.

[wasiler]

I did use that but spoke to Dale at Holeshot Performance who is a Bandit specialist. Both can back with the spring weight I got. Sag is perfect to what they say. He gave me some advice for other parts of the bike which has been bang on. Will be getting some other stuff from him as money allows.

Springs cost $135 plus freight, but that was in with other gear I got.

Yeah, I know, very reasonable price. That is why I am passing along your thread. About how long did it take to get?

[nzspokes]

Yeah, I know, very reasonable price. That is why I am passing along your thread. About how long did it take to get?

7 working days.

[wasiler]

7 working days.

frack! that is better than I thought you were going to tell me. Thanks for the info and enjoy your new suspension.

[Robert Taylor]

What is really sad about all this:

1) Its clear that the Government is unwilling to tax everyone consistently, and therefore fairly. Businesses are always targeted for clearance and gst charges, not so too many private imports

2) Its hard to compete with companies that have massive buying power and very slender margins, sustainable only by big volume. Argue as much as you want about this.

3) Our dollar is clearly too strong against especially greenbacks, especially for the export sector. At 60 to 65 cents our export sector ( which incidentally is VERY important, the most important sector ) would be prospering.

Against those factors and a number of others its very simple for people to simplistically label NZ retailers as rip off merchants, when in fact the reason for such disparities are quite complex and very difficult to resolve.

Its also very clear that there is a hardcore level of people who dont care where they shop as long as its the cheapest deal, and it matters not to them how it negatively impacts on our fellow Kiwis.

Call me old fashioned, Id rather see our country prosper than propping up the US economy all the time while through the fault of Governments not accruing any tax revenue from it.

[pete-blen]

I understand where you are coming from Robert...But if theres a massive prise diffrents
you have to draw the line somewhere..

I have spent over $2000 on my XT660 from over seas... but every part I have got
is not available in NZ... I will buy in NZ if the part is stocked , But I draw the line at
around 50% more exspensive in NZ..
you have to remember the money dosn't just apair in our bank accounts..we do work for it...
the yanks ain't seen any of my $...
UK - Metal mule exhaust / AUS - bash plate x2 / Brazil - Gillimoto tank..
I would have sorced these in NZ but NO ONE has them... at times we are forced to
buy off shore...
I'm off the opinion for smaller cheaper bits if the part is no more than 50% dearer here.. buy it here..
but I wouldn't liked to have payed 50% more for the exhaust or tank in NZ...


Pete

[Viscount Montgomery]

Taylors arrogance is extreme, a scurrying middleman full of rhetoric, hanging around a biker site grasping at peoples wallets. A self righteous prat thru and thru. The fucking arrogance to label people buying online to save themselves a few bucks to pay bills or put some extra food in their cupboards as arseholes. What an ignorant jerk.

The same fucking arrogance to sit here with head up own arse labeling any backyard mechanics who work on their own bikes as idiots/morons. All the time sitting here on a high horse surrounded by phony, fawning, squid-riding, givi-wearing, ass-lick sycophantic cronies living in a little fantasy world of sticky rubber and fiddled suspension. Bitching that it's all so unfair on himself, wants others penalized and taxed even more, yet all the time this jackass doesn't even have his own product. What a tosser supreme.

This is the same piece of work who secretly colluded with racetech to halt their online sales to kiwis, then proceeded to sneakily monopolize the sale of racetech products at inflated prices all to himself without a word muttered about it. Shrewd and as slimy as they come. Always has an answer and an excuse. A national party toady who votes for, defends, apologizes and supports the likes of ratfink Key, slime-ball English and stinking dogshit weasel-turd N.smith. The same smirking elitist cunts with priorities totally totally fucking twisted who are fucking this country over like never before. Yet now suddenly these fucking creeps aren't the best thing since sliced bread? .. Oh the fucking irony of it all.

Yes the economy's lurching into epic-fail under our leadership so lets just give ourselves a pay-rise for christmas and we'll backdate the fucker a year with it. Fuck every other cunt, we need a new fleet of beemers to look the part again and we need a few more billion to pay fees to shifty dodging consultants for more phony bullshit advice guaranteed to fuck the country even more...

So lets just close a few more schools, hit small business with more rules, bills and cynical regulations, increase tax on gas again and get rid of a few more cops and nurses with it. We're ok ourselves with our own inflated salaries and perks Jack, so employment for the masses can now get fucked for the next few years or so. Don't worry, just put some more razor wire around your doors and windows to keep all the desperate scum out there at bay. Or move to Remuera, there's no crime or lowlife there.

End of the day all these creepy bastards are so full of shit, their main concern in this life is the size of their own private bank accounts

[Robert Taylor]

Taylors arrogance is extreme, a scurrying middleman full of rhetoric, hanging around a biker site grasping at peoples wallets. A self righteous prat thru and thru. The fucking arrogance to label people buying online to save themselves a few bucks to pay bills or put some extra food in their cupboards as arseholes. What an ignorant jerk.

The same fucking arrogance to sit here with head up own arse labeling any backyard mechanics who work on their own bikes as idiots/morons. All the time sitting here on a high horse surrounded by phony, fawning, squid-riding, givi-wearing, ass-lick sycophantic cronies living in a little fantasy world of sticky rubber and fiddled suspension. Bitching that it's all so unfair on himself, wants others penalized and taxed even more, yet all the time this jackass doesn't even have his own product. What a tosser supreme.

This is the same piece of work who secretly colluded with racetech to halt their online sales to kiwis, then proceeded to sneakily monopolize the sale of racetech products at inflated prices all to himself without a word muttered about it. Shrewd and as slimy as they come. Always has an answer and an excuse. A national party toady who votes for, defends, apologizes and supports the likes of ratfink Key, slime-ball English and stinking dogshit weasel-turd N.smith. The same smirking elitist cunts with priorities totally totally fucking twisted who are fucking this country over like never before. Yet now suddenly these fucking creeps aren't the best thing since sliced bread? .. Oh the fucking irony of it all.

Yes the economy's lurching into epic-fail under our leadership so lets just give ourselves a pay-rise for christmas and we'll backdate the fucker a year with it. Fuck every other cunt, we need a new fleet of beemers to look the part again and we need a few more billion to pay fees to shifty dodging consultants for more phony bullshit advice guaranteed to fuck the country even more...

So lets just close a few more schools, hit small business with more rules, bills and cynical regulations, increase tax on gas again and get rid of a few more cops and nurses with it. We're ok ourselves with our own inflated salaries and perks Jack, so employment for the masses can now get fucked for the next few years or so. Don't worry, just put some more razor wire around your doors and windows to keep all the desperate scum out there at bay. Or move to Remuera, there's no crime or lowlife there.

End of the day all these creepy bastards are so full of shit, their main concern in this life is the size of their own private bank accounts

THE SEWERS OF THE WORLD POUR FORTH THEIR FILTH............... There is nothing more creepy and GUTLESS than someone filthy of mouth and accusations hiding behind a forum name

[Robert Taylor]

Taylors arrogance is extreme, a scurrying middleman full of rhetoric, hanging around a biker site grasping at peoples wallets. A self righteous prat thru and thru. The fucking arrogance to label people buying online to save themselves a few bucks to pay bills or put some extra food in their cupboards as arseholes. What an ignorant jerk.

The same fucking arrogance to sit here with head up own arse labeling any backyard mechanics who work on their own bikes as idiots/morons. All the time sitting here on a high horse surrounded by phony, fawning, squid-riding, givi-wearing, ass-lick sycophantic cronies living in a little fantasy world of sticky rubber and fiddled suspension. Bitching that it's all so unfair on himself, wants others penalized and taxed even more, yet all the time this jackass doesn't even have his own product. What a tosser supreme.

This is the same piece of work who secretly colluded with racetech to halt their online sales to kiwis, then proceeded to sneakily monopolize the sale of racetech products at inflated prices all to himself without a word muttered about it. Shrewd and as slimy as they come. Always has an answer and an excuse. A national party toady who votes for, defends, apologizes and supports the likes of ratfink Key, slime-ball English and stinking dogshit weasel-turd N.smith. The same smirking elitist cunts with priorities totally totally fucking twisted who are fucking this country over like never before. Yet now suddenly these fucking creeps aren't the best thing since sliced bread? .. Oh the fucking irony of it all.

Yes the economy's lurching into epic-fail under our leadership so lets just give ourselves a pay-rise for christmas and we'll backdate the fucker a year with it. Fuck every other cunt, we need a new fleet of beemers to look the part again and we need a few more billion to pay fees to shifty dodging consultants for more phony bullshit advice guaranteed to fuck the country even more...

So lets just close a few more schools, hit small business with more rules, bills and cynical regulations, increase tax on gas again and get rid of a few more cops and nurses with it. We're ok ourselves with our own inflated salaries and perks Jack, so employment for the masses can now get fucked for the next few years or so. Don't worry, just put some more razor wire around your doors and windows to keep all the desperate scum out there at bay. Or move to Remuera, there's no crime or lowlife there.

End of the day all these creepy bastards are so full of shit, their main concern in this life is the size of their own private bank accounts

Its Race Tech policy not to sell worldwide direct to the public, that is why they have retailers. This is no different to most other manufacturers of a wide range of products. Manufacturers generally dont sell direct, they have a distribution chain to do that for them.

[Robert Taylor]

I understand where you are coming from Robert...But if theres a massive prise diffrents
you have to draw the line somewhere..

I have spent over $2000 on my XT660 from over seas... but every part I have got
is not available in NZ... I will buy in NZ if the part is stocked , But I draw the line at
around 50% more exspensive in NZ..
you have to remember the money dosn't just apair in our bank accounts..we do work for it...
the yanks ain't seen any of my $...
UK - Metal mule exhaust / AUS - bash plate x2 / Brazil - Gillimoto tank..
I would have sorced these in NZ but NO ONE has them... at times we are forced to
buy off shore...
I'm off the opinion for smaller cheaper bits if the part is no more than 50% dearer here.. buy it here..
but I wouldn't liked to have payed 50% more for the exhaust or tank in NZ...


Pete

Yes I totally accept what you are saying and indeed its gradually morphing into a situation where there will likely be no retailers inbetween.

This is not an easy situation, but I am trying to highlight what is an essentially ''false'' situation where no clearance charges and gst are paid. This widens the gap even further, placing small NZ businesses at a further disadvantage. No Governments seem prepared to tackle this inequity, not even my favoured National party.

Given that most tax collected comes from small NZ businesses ( as a whole ) I really wonder aloud how much of that tax take has been eroded given the internet revolution. No one of course likes taxes and personally I would be in favour of a flat consumption tax only. But of course we need to have ( reasonable )taxation to fund the social services we have all come to know and expect .

[nzspokes]

This is not an easy situation, but I am trying to highlight what is an essentially ''false'' situation where no clearance charges and gst are paid.

My understanding of why they dont try to collect GST on orders that attract less than $60 GST is that compliance would be higher than collection.

But would the clearence and gst charges account for the retail in NZ being 85% higher than the US retail?

[Robert Taylor]

My understanding of why they dont try to collect GST on orders that attract less than $60 GST is that compliance would be higher than collection.

But would the clearence and gst charges account for the retail in NZ being 85% higher than the US retail?

That is why NZ retailers are advocating that the banks collect clearance and gst at the point of monetary transaction. Whichever way, it isnt easy. 85% is a pretty wild generalisation and I guess that is seen on some products. But with many price parity is in fact very close. Where there is a disparity in fairness you have to factor in what clearance and gst would have cost you, because after all that is what the distribution chain is charged. Then the disparity narrows considerably.
As I also eluded to its slowly morphing into a situation where there will no longer exist a distributor margin and then a retailers margin, both of which are being squeezed to breaking point. There may only be one local source at a price that is competitive, you wont be able to ride around the corner to the local retailer.