Brainless Broads Babbling Bullshit!

[BigAl]

Fuck .. enough already - 13 pages of babbling bulshit about quads ...

Silly hat time ...

Best idea all topic

[unstuck]

Ok katman her's a we scenario for you and hb.

Im on a farm-its damp on the ground and i want to get up a steeper type hill that has a flat'er area on the ridge with a gully up either side.
I have to cross a colvit at the bottom and i have a spray tank on the quad full of spray for gorse up the hill further.

How would you handle the quad up the hill.

Fuck that bro, I would use the tractor. Cos its got a cab on it and I can light my cone out of the wind.

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=BigAl;1130462305]Best idea all topic

Obviously a good time for it then.

[Ocean1]

Well we mostly agree except I'm not getting your point regarding the relationship between safety engineers and quad bikes? Assuming the quad passed an initial safety standard (ie the design) I can only see the terrain as a factor where engineering could make a difference. ie properly formed, inspected and maintained farm tracks etc.

Yes - there is a price on preserving a human life and the role of laws/regulations is to reduce that cost by preventing as many silly accidents as possible. I agree that there is a trend towards overkill but equally as many examples where that approach works.

Sorry, I thought we'd moved on to a general OSH shitfest. In which case I was pointing out that the whole approach to safety has moved from specialists who's job it was to protect companies and workers by quantifying risk and providing solutions to minimise it, to our current system which basically says: "We don't give a fuck how you manage it but if there's an accident we'll see you in court". The result of which is that we no longer have the ability to cost OSH activities at all, let alone compare them with ACC costs that are rammed down our throats whether we want it or not.

And the overkill's there precicely because there's no industry-wide "Best Practice" as there once was. Used to be that in designing equipment guarding and interlocks I could get everything I legally needed from industry standards publications. I can't do that now. And no matter how experienced and careful I am I can still find myself on the end of a prosecution for an event I had absolutely no control over. Luckilly I still know how to handle risk. About 40% of a project budget's typical 20% contingency is OSH related, and it's non-refundable. I was told recently that over half of the the cost of Northrop Grummans' private plane sales in the US is litigation contingency.

[Ocean1]

You wouldn't know shit from clay.

Reckon I do. Shit's what you get when you confront your opinion with facts demonstrating that you're full of it.

[kiwi cowboy]

Is the fully loaded spray tank on the front or rear of the quad? (It will make a difference)

Thankyou for pointing that out bandit and in answer it is on the rear.
By asking that question i think it shows you are thinking about the problem and maybe you solution will be outside the square like mine is.

[kiwi cowboy]

All of it, right over your head.

Nothing gets in at all does it?

No not over my head.
what i posted re the hill problem you dont in you infinite wisdom want to answer is a valid simple senario that one could ask a prospective employ'e to asess the knowlege and competance of that person to decide what level of training said person needs.

[kiwi cowboy]

Huh easy, give it shit like most farmers/workers would or wait until the slope is dry of course that was (a joke). simple as 'using ones head, to work it out.

Seriously to ask a question like that is dumb, assessment is on the spot . Is it safe or should I approach this another way.

Quads will be left in the shed for a month soon, then we shall have another spat of tractor accidents to talk shit about.

no its not - see above post above for a reason for asking it.

[kiwi cowboy]

my backpack sprayer is 15litres.........edit* opppss I see that you mean 90 litres of spray.......ah fuck spraying it, cant you talk it into leaving?

send hatman and hardonbanger up there with the dribble they talk the whole hillside would be clear.

[Headbanger]

And the overkill's there precicely because there's no industry-wide "Best Practice" as there once was. Used to be that in designing equipment guarding and interlocks I could get everything I legally needed from industry standards publications. I can't do that now. And no matter how experienced and careful I am I can still find myself on the end of a prosecution for an event I had absolutely no control over.

That sadly is right on the money.

[scumdog]

Because the 'large percentage', and 'poor condition' and their effects are not quantified, it is purely subjective. Establish the facts then work from there, it really is a nice, simple, common sense, approach.

Hmm, I'll count all the bent and rusted out frames behind the local Suzuki and Honda shops one day, there's quite a few.
I think dairy-effluent created rust is more common that crash-damage or damage from towing bull-dozers...

[scumdog]

I blame the friggen
"Original Warrior" for starting this thread.

Rideon mowers will be the next target .

Who-ya-talkin-bout Willis??

[scumdog]

its not a lack of skills that get people killed.

No, it's poor judgement, a lack of understanding of physics and a piss-poor perception of danger and consequence that kill and mains most of them.

[flyingcrocodile46]

No, it's poor judgement, a lack of understanding of physics and a piss-poor perception of danger and consequence that kill and mains most of them.

Yup! A distinct lack of good old fashioned common dog fuck

[doc]

Who-ya-talkin-bout Willis??

That Shrek is the one your after. Those rideons are just accidents waiting to happen