I dont need teaching how to pull a fuckwit stunt, I think them up all by myselfOriginally Posted by Headbanger
Forum whore
I dont need teaching how to pull a fuckwit stunt, I think them up all by myself
Forum whore
I think you are missunderstanding me and if you read some of my posts you would see that i actualy do agree with training up to a point but you can train till your blue in the face but you cant hold people's hand 24 seven to make sure they adhere to the training which is where the personal resposability comes in.
As i have said before i had personal responsibility drumed in as a kid.
When i was riding 30 miles on a friday night in the dark on a horse to get to a weekend job i new if something happened to me i was in trouble and it would be hard and take a while to find me so i took the personal responsibility to make decisions reguarding my safety.
winding up stucky since ages ago
Forum whore
I tend to think you have described what a lack of skill entails.No, it's poor judgement, a lack of understanding of physics and a piss-poor perception of danger and consequence that kill and mains most of them.
but then I do tend to think a lot...
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Forum whore
I don't think I've referred to that particular accident at all in this thread.
If that accident were the only issue regarding quad bikes I wouldn't have even entered into the fray - (apart from perhaps calling the adults fuckwits).
I am talking specifically about the apalling mechanical state of many of New Zealand's farm bikes and what could be done to improve that standard.
I struggle to see how anyone would argue that improving the safety standard of farm bikes shouldn't be addressed.
"trolling"
aye & I don't disagree with you on this, as I was a heard manager & all the bikes given to us by our employers where up to standard, this was in my contract, along with that the bikes had to be cleaned every week & all service's had to be kept up to date a log book was provided etc... that happened on the last two farms..... so it is happening.....
so at the end of the day it is up to the individual in both maintenance & how they use it - not for some idiot who knows shit about it to start changing laws etc... because of a few who ignor all of the above
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Anarchic Wild Child
FUck ... I had a small farm in the North Island hill country ... and a couple of quads on it ... a loaded tank on the rear makes it a very different proposition to a front mounted tank ... I'd prefer it on the front to keep that end of the bike down when going up hills ...
Are you hinting at reversing up the hill ?
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Hardcore Punk
I was working on a dairy farm in bell block in 84 and refused to ride the farmbike anymore because it had no brakes and kept jumping out of gear, and there was some pretty good hills. Got kicked off the property at 11pm at night. Was a fucking long walk that night. Actually he gave me the option of walking to get the cows or fucking off, I said I would walk, but he told me to fuck off anyway.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.
Anarchic Wild Child
Yeah .. it woulsd be a long walk from Bell Block to Gore ...I was working on a dairy farm in bell block in 84 and refused to ride the farmbike anymore because it had no brakes and kept jumping out of gear, and there was some pretty good hills. Got kicked off the property at 11pm at night. Was a fucking long walk that night. Actually he gave me the option of walking to get the cows or fucking off, I said I would walk, but he told me to fuck off anyway.
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Hardcore Punk
Think I only got about as far as Urenui that night, still a bloody long way. No one wants to pick up a punkrocker in the middle of the night.Was heading for Whangaparoa anyway, not gore. Didnt even know where gore was back then I dont think.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
Scooter boy
Maybe I'm just a paranoid share milker but I'd hate to see what osh and the labour department would do to me if my worker had an accident on one of my bikes and it wasn't up to scratch. They all get training and specifically instructed not to ride any if the bike has not got everything working properly. Plus limited to a top speed of 30kph
Not that that stopped the ball joint snapping while I was going round a corner a while back, some things you cant prepare for and unfortunately you also cant regulate for stupidity (as much as the government seems to try)
Ultimate keyboard Warrior
The way the system works, is that if there is an incident then you have failed in your duty, No matter what level you have been working at or what systems you have in place, the incident itself is proof of a failure to take all practicable steps to ensure the safety of your workers.
You may get nothing, a formal warning or a trip into court, where it will be on you to prove that you were doing everything you were able to do to meet your legal requirements (even though you failed to do so as proven by the incident...in there eyes.) You can have all the maintenance systems in place, and yet a mechanical failure shows you weren't doing enough. Hence the crippling of some workplaces trying to attain an undefined, vague and imo unattainable criteria.
I'm not defending it, I consider it a poor if not incompetent and lazy stance from the power that be, There should be a defined minimum standard to work to, Instead they just tell you it better not go wrong, and if it does, You're at fault. No matter what you have in place.
Rememeber if its not written down (and signed by all parties) it doesn't exsist.
Ultimate keyboard Warrior
Also the report into the pike river mine disaster report highlights what can happen when the system ignores the concept of a minimum standard and just insists each work places does what they see fit to reach compliance.
Not helped by the fact that the DOL were prepared to see people die before they looked into it.
Forum whore
A ball joint in good condition won't snap from going around a corner.
I'd suggest that the bike wasn't in as good a condition as you're imagining.
Forum whore
Hint hint yep but the two people i challenged to answer deem to have gone quiet.
Maybe they dont know as much as they make out or cant think outside the square.
winding up stucky since ages ago
Forum whore
Why the fuck would I be interested in how to do it?Hint hint yep but the two people i challenged to answer deem to have gone quiet.
Maybe they dont know as much as they make out or cant think outside the square.
Like I said, I'm not a farmer.
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