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    The first place I'd be looking at to improve Quad safety would be the tyres. Those low pressure balloons they favour, whilst great for traction on greasy shitty cow lanes, are lethal when they tuck under on hill country.

    Remember not so long ago they were going to make roll-over protection mandetory - until it was pointed out that the resultant raising of the COG would make the things less stable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Trouble is, the Govt picks up the tab when idiocy strikes and people get hurt.

    And they don't like doing that, they don't want to pay.

    So some brain-box somewhere trys to figure out ways to stop this idiocy.

    It won't work, his raw material is homo sapiens, chock full of idiocy.
    all at a cost far in excess of just paying out for the idiots in the 1st place... But hey it's from that financial "bucket" not this one so that's ok
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    At least it will give you something to do down in Balclutha. Lookin forward to the "Better work stories " from this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    all at a cost far in excess of just paying out for the idiots in the 1st place... But hey it's from that financial "bucket" not this one so that's ok
    Prevention is 1/100th the cost of treatment.

    That aside, Farmers are fucking morons and operate out of the view of the rest of NZ, Instead of allowing them to continue killing themselves and their children at a cost to the taxpayers (well, death is cheap, they can continue to kill themselves, Go easy on the kids though fuckballs) lets just tell them to get fucked, Ban farm quads, Make the useless fuckwits ride horses. Then something in the equation will actually have a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    Prevention is 1/100th the cost of treatment.

    That aside, Farmers are fucking morons and operate out of the view of the rest of NZ, Instead of allowing them to continue killing themselves and their children at a cost to the taxpayers (well, death is cheap, they can continue to kill themselves, Go easy on the kids though fuckballs) lets just tell them to get fucked, Ban farm quads, Make the useless fuckwits ride horses. Then something in the equation will actually have a brain.
    There's some logic in there somewhere......
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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post
    The first place I'd be looking at to improve Quad safety would be the tyres. Those low pressure balloons they favour, whilst great for traction on greasy shitty cow lanes, are lethal when they tuck under on hill country.

    Remember not so long ago they were going to make roll-over protection mandetory - until it was pointed out that the resultant raising of the COG would make the things less stable...
    Then you just raise the required gradient slightly higher for them to tip, maybe less will tip, but those that do will have a harder fall. Just look at how many tractors get rolled every year.

    Considering how many hours are clocked up on quads, it wouldn't surprise me if they were statistically safer than showering...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
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    Considering how many hours are clocked up on quads, it wouldn't surprise me if they were statistically safer than showering...
    That conclusion can only be reached if you failed to risk into account. And if risk isn't taken into account then the conclusion is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    Prevention is 1/100th the cost of treatment.

    That aside, Farmers are fucking morons and operate out of the view of the rest of NZ, Instead of allowing them to continue killing themselves and their children at a cost to the taxpayers (well, death is cheap, they can continue to kill themselves, Go easy on the kids though fuckballs) lets just tell them to get fucked, Ban farm quads, Make the useless fuckwits ride horses. Then something in the equation will actually have a brain.
    prevention maybee, but paying some idiot in a suit to come up with retarded "prevention" ideas (like Hi-Vis) does not.
    I'm assuming too by your suggestion you're not aware of just how high up the injury chart horse riders are??? And that's without the booze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    prevention maybee, but paying some idiot in a suit to come up with retarded "prevention" ideas (like Hi-Vis) does not.
    I'm assuming too by your suggestion you're not aware of just how high up the injury chart horse riders are??? And that's without the booze
    Got me there, I'll admit complete ignorance on the risk involved and incident rate in riding horses.

    That aside, I like hi-vis gear, ever done an emergency drill on a large site where you have had to find a person not wearing a hi-vis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    That conclusion can only be reached if you failed to risk into account. And if risk isn't taken into account then the conclusion is meaningless.
    Conclusion? A conclusion can also only be reached with data, I just said such a conclusion would not surprise me if the risk was hours based. If you want to find the data to compare, you'd probably be the first...

    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    Got me there, I'll admit complete ignorance on the risk involved and incident rate in riding horses.

    That aside, I like hi-vis gear, ever done an emergency drill on a large site where you have had to find a person not wearing a hi-vis?
    I think this shows the way things are going, if there's an emergency (or drill) you get the fuck off the site, then there's no need to search at all! Makes more sense, but doesn't account for morons who ignore the emergency.
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    While I'm not making any assumptions on the state of the quads in the recent spate of accidents, there certainly needs to be something done about the standard of farm bikes in this country.

    There are countless death traps out there being used every day.

    Half the time it's not the farmer using the bike either - it's their unsuspecting farm-hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post
    Remember not so long ago they were going to make roll-over protection mandetory - until it was pointed out that the resultant raising of the COG would make the things less stable...
    I know of two quad bikes with roll bars front and back. The height of both is 30 cm's higher than the Handle bars. Both owners have rolled their bikes over on top of themselves at some stage ... and been able to crawl out from under it. One suffered a broken arm and was bleeding badly. Had the bars not been fitted ... he'd have died.

    The roll bars you mentioned were roll cages.

    With all the deaths in car accidents ... I haven't heard a call for roll bars required to be fitted in them .... Or for tougher regulation on who can operate them.

    And considering all the total hours that quad bikes are being used in this country each year ... the death rate isn't that bad.
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    what they(OSH) need to do is immediately implement the use of a hard hat, gloves, safety glasses and a high viz jacket when riding a quad. The farm needs to have a hazard register, weekly toolbox meetings, monthly health and safety meetings, an H&S noticeboard with the latest meeting minutes posted on it, a PPE issue register, training records etc. Then if there is an accident, they should prosecute the shit out of the person responsible for the accident. Ideally that should be the owner of the farm (not the operator of the bike) and he should be informed of the intention to prosecute (read persecute) him on the day before the 6 month time limit for initiating such actions expires. Then they should subject him to a further 6 months of investigation, legal cost, disrupted business and personal stress. Then fine him say.......$1 or 200,000 for causing the death through his failure to ensure the employee or share milker was kept totally safe at all times.

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    More rules and regulations, that's the answer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    what they(OSH) need to do is immediately implement the use of a hard hat, gloves, safety glasses and a high viz jacket when riding a quad. The farm needs to have a hazard register, weekly toolbox meetings, monthly health and safety meetings, an H&S noticeboard with the latest meeting minutes posted on it, a PPE issue register, training records etc. Then if there is an accident, they should prosecute the shit out of the person responsible for the accident. Ideally that should be the owner of the farm (not the operator of the bike) and he should be informed of the intention to prosecute (read persecute) him on the day before the 6 month time limit for initiating such actions expires. Then they should subject him to a further 6 months of investigation, legal cost, disrupted business and personal stress. Then fine him say.......$1 or 200,000 for causing the death through his failure to ensure the employee or share milker was kept totally safe at all times.
    Why not just hold the operator of the (any) vehicle responsible for THEIR actions ... too easy .. ???
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