Cops blinded by their own stupidity

**sAsLEX** · 7th August 2005, 19:56

Who else watched Sunday?

the cop they had on there must have been on something, saying the victim was severly beaten when his own father said he wasn't even hurt and that he played football later in the day!?

and some one who stepped up to the plate and has caught 2 burglars at the same premises in the last year is arrested, hold on where were the police?! sh1 is quite likely, catchin innocent medics speeding!

The police have to step back and have a long hard look at themselves and wonder why no one is joining these days, most people support people who look after their community and dont want to see innocent people behind bars while criminals and the scum of society are continually let free!

**scumdog** · 7th August 2005, 20:43

Nice troll!!!

So you KNOW that EVERYBODY was telling the truth on this programme???

Yeah, screw-ups happen but I wonder WHO ( and by how much) did NOT reveal as much as they knew on this show??? - from both sides.

**inlinefour** · 7th August 2005, 20:48

Its cause most of its total shit...

**crashe** · 7th August 2005, 20:51

I watched it...

Now the police are saying that they are now looking into the 15 year old smashing up the shop frontage...
Like now after how many months...!!!!!!!!!

The police go to where he is staying and he is never there, yet the people there are smoking wacky backy and boozing .... oh well...

The father wanted his son to be locked up and learn that he is doing wrong.

Yep there are always two sides to every story....
I tend to believe the guy thats trying to stop the crims in his area.

**scumdog** · 7th August 2005, 20:57

Originally Posted by crashe

I watched it...

Now the police are saying that they are now looking into the 15 year old smashing up the shop frontage...
Like now after how many months...!!!!!!!!!

The police go to where he is staying and he is never there, yet the people there are smoking wacky backy and boozing .... oh well...

The father wanted his son to be locked up and learn that he is doing wrong.

Yep there are always two sides to every story....
I tend to believe the guy thats trying to stop the crims in his area.

And at 15 he's going to get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket..

For: Intentional Damage-
try and prove he did more and you'd be out of luck.

**Pixie** · 8th August 2005, 00:22

The cops seem to be totally unable to determine what is going to be bad PR and when to keep their mouths shut

Maybe it really is an IQ problem

As for the story itself

**Pixie** · 8th August 2005, 00:27

Originally Posted by scumdog

And at 15 he's going to get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket..

For: Intentional Damage-
try and prove he did more and you'd be out of luck.

We know this,we after all, have voted in the Feminazi,PC,chardonay socialist regime we deserve.The point is the Samoan guy should be getting a police commendation not arrested.What's wrong with the fucken idiot cop hierachy??

**James Deuce** · 8th August 2005, 01:28

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

So we should let vigilante justice rule then?

Vigilantes are worse than the original criminal.

But you've all obviously made your mind up based on a TV "news" show. The same show that presented my brother in law who was very nearly killed by a drunk driver and lost an arm and a leg, as an angry, gun toting, redneck hick. And the recidivist drunk driver who lost an eye as a charming "Robin Hood" type who needed lots of counselling to get over losing his eye.

There's more here than meets the eye, but people who launch into a crime in progress without informing the Police first deserve jail time. Or we could of course just let everyone beat the shit out of each other for anything.

**scumdog** · 8th August 2005, 08:16

Originally Posted by Pixie

The cops seem to be totally unable to determine what is going to be bad PR and when to keep their mouths shut

Maybe it really is an IQ problem

As for the story itself

Read post #2.

Never mind, more neg. TV + more suckers to believe that it is ALL true = less people wanting to join police.

They will then have to offer more money to encourage people to join and I might get a pay increase out of it, hell, bring on more crappy TV stories!!

EDIT: Imagine the story from the other perspective "Grown man beats 15 year old with metal base-ball bat for breaking window - and window not even property of bat wielder"

**Lou Girardin** · 8th August 2005, 08:24

I didn't see the show, but this isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened.
Last year a guy was prosecuted for thumping some hood who had just stolen a womans car and crashed it a short way down the road. He witnessed it all.
This "prosecute at all costs" is not a good look. And we all know that it's only done to cover the cops arses in case they are critcised for using discretion.
They really need some bosses with genitalia.

**idb** · 8th August 2005, 08:32

Originally Posted by scumdog

Read post #2.

Never mind, more neg. TV + more suckers to believe that it is ALL true = less people wanting to join police.

They will then have to offer more money to encourage people to join and I might get a pay increase out of it, hell, bring on more crappy TV stories!!

I agree with you SD.
I am hugely cynical about what's on TV but I can still get sucked into believing what they show.
It's my trusting nature doncha know.

**Beemer** · 8th August 2005, 11:00

As my other half said, next time the guy should just beat the crap out of the guy breaking into the shop, then dump his body somewhere no one will find it!

Seriously though, the guy is 15 and 6ft tall, the guy who chased him had balls and was lucky he didn't end up injured himself. The kid sounds like a little shit whose own father thinks he needs jail time, so what are we meant to do? Perhaps next time this good citizen should call out "excuse me mate, I hope you're an adult because I'd like you to cease what you are doing as it is against the law and I may have to use force to stop you".

How many people would bother chasing someone breaking into someone ELSE'S property? I don't believe the full story came out on tv, but I know who I'd rather have as my neighbour and it ain't the 15 year-old loser.

**Indoo** · 8th August 2005, 14:02

Originally Posted by Pixie

Maybe it really is an IQ problem

I think your right, people who take shows like that at face value definately do have an IQ problem. Its a shame how gullible people can be, shows like that aren't out to promote facts, they are out to create a story and place a slant on things to grab peoples interest by twisting facts.

If the Police hadn't prosecuted they may well have created another story bagging Police for supporting vigilante justice and ignoring the rule of law.
It wouldn't make such good copy though, as theres nothing people like to hear more than vigilantes giving crooks a good bashing, just so long as its the vigilantes using excessive force and not the Police, its ok.

**spudchucka** · 8th August 2005, 15:44

Originally Posted by Pixie

We know this,we after all, have voted in the Feminazi,PC,chardonay socialist regime we deserve.The point is the Samoan guy should be getting a police commendation not arrested.What's wrong with the fucken idiot cop hierachy??

The guy shouldn't have run after them. He stopped the break in and in doing so performed his civic duty, he should have left it at that and called the police at that point. By chasing after them he has stepped into the realms of vigilantyism. He has also put himself at great risk as he could have been set upon by three male offenders. To subsequently prosecute him for a serious assault causing injury to the 15 year old they would have had to have medical evidence of injury, doctors reports, x-rays etc. If he wants to be a hero and carry out a citizens arrest armed with a baseball bat then he is subject to section 62 of the Crimes Act 1961 same as anyone who makes an arrest.

There are far too many armchair lawyers & graduates of the university of television around here!

**mikey** · 8th August 2005, 16:03

Originally Posted by Jim2

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

So we should let vigilante justice rule then?

Vigilantes are worse than the original criminal.

But you've all obviously made your mind up based on a TV "news" show. The same show that presented my brother in law who was very nearly killed by a drunk driver and lost an arm and a leg, as an angry, gun toting, redneck hick. And the recidivist drunk driver who lost an eye as a charming "Robin Hood" type who needed lots of counselling to get over losing his eye.

There's more here than meets the eye, but people who launch into a crime in progress without informing the Police first deserve jail time. Or we could of course just let everyone beat the shit out of each other for anything.

god damm red neck gun weilding hicks!
bring back the patu weilding maori