Forced licence progression

[Zedder]

Teenaged drivers are not "consciously" bad drivers ... after a few lessons (but before getting a license) ... they'll tell you they're getting quite good. And the "Boy-racers" that find themselves parked on their roof/in the side of a house/inside another car/under a truck ... etc. ... will ALL tell you how good a driver they are. And then howThey just got unlucky. And it wasn't their fault.

But hypothetically (of course) ... they might be wrong.

Pike! It's nothing to do with consciously being a good or bad driver.

[davereid]

us 17 year olds are alot smarter then you think mr piggy.

Yes, we see evidence of that every day.

[FJRider]

Pike! It's nothing to do with consciously being a good or bad driver.

I never said it was. They are consciously thinking ... they were good drivers

[Nova.]

maybe its just me.

[Zedder]

I never said it was. They are consciously thinking ... they were good drivers

Ok, since it's Sunday and I've been for a good long motorbike ride lately, I'll answer the hypothetical question that was going to be put to hypothetical teenagers. Ready? Right, "Do you want to be a good driver and not be dead or injured or kill or maim others?"

The answer should be "No", or dirivatives of that answer eg: "Fuck no!" "No way!" etc. Nobody (in their right mind or consciously or knowingly) should answer yes.

[FJRider]

Ok, since it's Sunday and I've been for a good long motorbike ride lately, I'll answer the hypothetical question that was going to be put to hypothetical teenagers. Ready? Right, "Do you want to be a good driver and not be dead or injured or kill or maim others?"

The answer should be "No", or dirivatives of that answer eg: "Fuck no!" "No way!" etc. Nobody (in their right mind or consciously or knowingly) should answer yes.

Ok, since it's Sunday ...

They will all answer ... "Of course". (Followed by) But I AM a good driver now. The tests are tough enough now.

A few may even admit to struggling with learning in the early stages of getting a license now. But realistically ... the license tests are more memory based (remembering the required answers) rather than skill based.

[Akzle]

you wouldn't be handing licences out to anyone under 24 to start with.

or women, old folk, those demnd dangerous motorcyclists, fuck why should they even be on the road... death traps, those things.

infact, license half the population as bus or taxi drivers and remove the "right" to private vehicle ownership/use, that way the only people on the road will be proffesional drivers and cops. that would be for the greatest good of society. no more drunk driving, no more speeding (ever seen a taxi go withing 5km of the limit while charging a fare?)
nice. safe. roads.

if you want to be a hero on a motorcycle, or drive, go to the track, or get a P license.

[Zedder]

Ok, since it's Sunday ...

They will all answer ... "Of course". (Followed by) But I AM a good driver now. The tests are tough enough now.

A few may even admit to struggling with learning in the early stages of getting a license now. But realistically ... the license tests are more memory based (remembering the required answers) rather than skill based.

Well ok maybe some would say that. However, the practical side of it is skill based (obviously) and is apparently harder now so they have to be better skilled in order to pass it.

[Ocean1]

or women, old folk, those demnd dangerous motorcyclists, fuck why should they even be on the road... death traps, those things.

The point I was trying to make, apparently not very clearly. Thank you.

Now, who's next?

the only people on the road will be proffesional drivers and cops. that would be for the greatest good of society. no more drunk driving, no more speeding (ever seen a taxi go withing 5km of the limit while charging a fare?)
nice. safe. roads.

What, cops and truckies? The most dangerous fuckers on the road! Get them outa there!

[bosslady]

us 17 year olds are alot smarter then you think mr piggy.

As Ambassador of all 16-17 yos, I say bullshit more like you THINK you're a lot smarter than you actually are.

maybe its just me.

Doubt it.



Patience young grasshopper...

[FJRider]

Well ok maybe some would say that. However, the practical side of it is skill based (obviously) and is apparently harder now so they have to be better skilled in order to pass it.

Knowing and following ALL the rules (you can remember) for 20 minutes or so as you are followed/watched ... after that ... trying not to get caught. Not THAT difficult. (Until a few hormones kick in)

With only a few rules to think about ... that if failed ... is an instant test fail.

[Nova.]

As Ambassador of all 16-17 yos, I say bullshit more like you THINK you're a lot smarter than you actually are.



Doubt it.



Patience young grasshopper...

No bullshit, full time job, running my own sites at work etc etc.

but I do drive around on my learners

and would consider myself a better driver then most others on the road but its definitely something i do need to get asap

[FJRider]

Well ok maybe some would say that.

I rest my case ... from a 17 year old. And still on a learners ...

and would consider myself a better driver then most others on the road but its definitely something i do need to get asap

[Kickaha]

and would consider myself a better driver then most others on the road

Everyone in NZ thinks that

[bosslady]

No bullshit, full time job, running my own sites at work etc etc.

but I do drive around on my learners

and would consider myself a better driver then most others on the road but its definitely something i do need to get asap

Sorry, good for you (really) but... B.S., I was you once, trust me... and yes, upgrade your license asap, one less thing for us grown ups to pick on you for...