A word of warning!

[CHOPPA]

The Mobil site does mention ethanol fuel's in the materaial data safety sheets here. http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx Do a search under NZ, and petrol. They do say that it is less than 10% ethanol, but that other oxygenators may in the fuel.

We got the spec sheet from mobil and they have Synergy 8000 and Synergy 8000 e10. Depending where you buy it. If you buy it from the lower North Island its E10 but it is clearly labelled on the pump

[Quasievil]

Want a special brew made bro ? oh fuck !!!! I just posted on KB fuck this shit !!

[CHOPPA]

Want a special brew made bro ? oh fuck !!!! I just posted on KB fuck this shit !!

Good marketing opportunity there Quasi. You could say that your fuel is too good for motor racing in NZ! Its illegal for Go Kart racing for the same reason

[Howie]

We got the spec sheet from mobil and they have Synergy 8000 and Synergy 8000 e10. Depending where you buy it. If you buy it from the lower North Island its E10 but it is clearly labelled on the pump

From what I understand from this thread the amount of Oxygenates present is the main concern?

In Both the ethanol Blends, and unleaded petrol MSD sheets for NZ Mobil fuels the same statement is made. "Oxygenates may be present up to the maximum permitted by European Standard EN228". so if you are worried all you need to do is hunt down a copy of said standard on the net, and see what concentrations are legally allowed.

[CHOPPA]

From what I understand from this thread the amount of Oxygenates present is the main concern?

In Both the ethanol Blends, and unleaded petrol MSD sheets for NZ Mobil fuels the same statement is made. "Oxygenates may be present up to the maximum permitted by European Standard EN228". so if you are worried all you need to do is hunt down a copy of said standard on the net, and see what concentrations are legally allowed.

Doesnt matter what the european standard is, MNZ standard say 0.01% Oxygenates

[CHOPPA]

For the record we have all been using BP 98 and that has been testing out fine, if not a tad stale

[koba]

Oh dear.

This could lead to a bad situation.
I hope if it does/is that common sense is a bit more prevalent than it is in other forms of regulation...

Maybe I'll spend my hope on something else.

I'd be quite surprised if there was a pump fuel that didn't have oxygen in some quantity in it...
Edit: oh, 0.01%

[CHOPPA]

Im sure common sense will prevail but the MNZ officials were just as surprised as me when my fuel tested positive.

Problem is for now that is how the rule is written, I was lucky because I was tested in practice

[koba]

From what I understand from this thread the amount of Oxygenates present is the main concern?

In Both the ethanol Blends, and unleaded petrol MSD sheets for NZ Mobil fuels the same statement is made. "Oxygenates may be present up to the maximum permitted by European Standard EN228". so if you are worried all you need to do is hunt down a copy of said standard on the net, and see what concentrations are legally allowed.

http://www.biofuels-platform.ch/en/infos/en228.php

Hmm, that's not so good.

I wonder about the intent of the rules, would it be to ensure that people were using normal 'undoped' pup fuel at the time the regulations were written?

[Mental Trousers]

Doesnt matter what the european standard is, MNZ standard say 0.01% Oxygenates

It's 0.1% by mass bro.

Still, it allows for sweet F.A. oxygenates.

[koba]

Im sure common sense will prevail but the MNZ officials were just as surprised as me when my fuel tested positive.

Problem is for now that is how the rule is written, I was lucky because I was tested in practice

Damn, 'testing positive' really lends a sense of scary to the story!

It's 0.1% by mass bro.

If one argued that...

[Mental Trousers]

If one argued that...

Facts are good ...

[Grumph]

I wonder about the intent of the rules, would it be to ensure that people were using normal 'undoped' pup fuel at the time the regulations were written?

Once you start on "intent" you are into deep metaphysics with MNZ.....But it's my belief that those classes were to run on commercially available "pump" fuel...which in the NI at least, E10 is....

You may have to do something as simple as produce a receipt....or as hard as use organiser supplied fuel...who knows which way the commission will go....

[koba]

Facts are good ...

For a debate over mass?

I would have thought fantasy had the better chance for success...

[koba]

Once you start on "intent" you are into deep metaphysics with MNZ.....But it's my belief that those classes were to run on commercially available "pump" fuel...which in the NI at least, E10 is....

You may have to do something as simple as produce a receipt....or as hard as use organiser supplied fuel...who knows which way the commission will go....

That sums it up perfectly.