No8 Wire Extraordinaire
'Sfunny, I remember when one of the Sheriffs boys won a GP at Ohakea on a 'onda 4 stroke & everyone was blown away, think it was Chris (Kris?) rather than Craig.
A 4 stroke? yer kidding! Was a 2V 125 in those days too.
But more amusing was I think the next year Morley won on a 2 stroke that he had assembled from old parts like the night before or something.
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Moped rider
Yep for those interested in a bit of bucket GP history, it was back in 94 that Kris Shirrifs took the first 4T GP win (from Jimmy & Pete Steadman with me 4th).Originally Posted by F5 Dave
'Sfunny, I remember when one of the Sheriffs boys won a GP at Ohakea on a 'onda 4 stroke & everyone was blown away, think it was Chris (Kris?) rather than Craig.
A 4 stroke? yer kidding! Was a 2V 125 in those days too.
But more amusing was I think the next year Morley won on a 2 stroke that he had assembled from old parts like the night before or something.
But there have been 3 other 4T wins before the FXR wins at Taupo - 03, 04 & 05 at Auckland with Karl Morgan (twice) & Hayden Fitzgerald.
Morley Shirrifs won the F4 GP 3x, all on his old bitsa TF100:
In 95 from Ziffle & Speedpro
In 96 from Jasonu & Jimmy
In 98 from me & F5 Dave
Speedpro & I are 2 old gents that have never quite managed to win the F4 GP - I've been 2nd 5x & he has been 2nd 2x.
I'm sure looking forward to Taupo, though I'm well short of 29hp! Hopefully there will be more to the race than hp - last year my son qualified on pole with only 18hp.
Bucket Racer/Crasher
Morley won the GP one year after making an ignition from a box of bits at the track on the morning of the GP. Wires were twisted together with a bit of tape. He is a super talented rider. I came 2nd behind Jimmy at Taupo one year, we lapped third place. I won the last Wigram GP in front of Ziffle, again we lapped 3rd place. My bike has come 2nd one more times than me. I'd been hauled away from Ohakune in an ambo and Jimmy had blown a crank so he jumped on mine and came 2nd behind Peter Steadman I think. The Shirriff 4T that won the GP dropped a valve the next time they started it. Pete Sales had a quick 125 4T and was coming 3rd at the GP one year with me chasing. Unfortunately for him the cam chain tensioner went "ping" about 100m from the line on the last lap. I pipped him, just.
Buckets are well fast enough now to head back to Wanganui again. I talked the Shirriffs into it one year and quite a few others. We did good and there was some very red faces when the racing ended, same thing at Nelson one year.
Long Haired Yobbo
I love hearing these sorts of stories.
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Your bike will also be way short of the oppositions 90+kg's.
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Yeah in '96 Morley spent the whole weekend pissing about with his bike, wouldn't start, wouldn't run, leaked blah blah. They were even having trouble getting it started for the race. When the flag dropped, off he went, didn't see much of him past lap 10. I heard the next time it was run (the next years GP) it shit itself, not sure how true that is.
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Taken from a Blog Post of Kobas........TRRS winners......
2007 - Tim Fraser - FXR
2008 - Richard Ford - FXR
2009 - Andrew Adlam - FXR
I agree with Koba, the FXR 's can't be written of yet..... this year is shaping up to be very interesting indeed.
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the 2 hour was won by a 2t and both rick and tim couldn't keep up with it
also I belive that the rider has set a good lap time around Taupo last year 1m 27 sec ?
I recon it could easily go to a much younger rider this year
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In 2007 Tim had been down the week or so before to a Taupo Ride Day with his 600 and got in some valuable practice and was running hot in the TRRS F4 practice and qualified on pole.
Tim won the first F4 race, Kieth Biddle had borrowed Buckets4me's old GP125 and he won the the second race.
I was leading the third raceuntil half way round on the last lap and just as I was going up the hill at the back of the track the engine started playing up with fuel starvation.
Some gunge had clogged the fuel filterand it slowed me enough for Tim and NedKelly to get by before the Chequered Flag.
The over all points for the day went TimKeith
and NedKelly
As there is only three places on the Podeum
Still thebikes were all Team ESE 2-Strokers.
Things have got much more competitive now and just getting to the pointy end would be an achevement.
Long Haired Yobbo
Ah, I didn't mean to blog that, I got all confused with which buttons did what. But yeah you obviously saw it.
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No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Yeah I haven't ridden the F4 many times, but one of the more memorable races was Taupo that year it rained cats & dogfish. I crashed the H on the old turn 1 flat out & had to kick the bike away 3 times before I was free of it& hit the dirt still sliding fast. I got to it pulled the clutch & jumped back on & tried to take off in 6th Bwooah, change change Bwoahhh, change change & was off again, left side of bar twisted in 30degrees.
I was running old Yoko 110s, but the front was virtually bereft of tread so I figured I'd just go for it. There was quite an attrition rate but I also found a groove & was hauling in people, not that it mattered I figured. But I saw Dave ahead in the distance & the red mist came down so I passed him & gapped a little. No doubt this caused Dave to figure there was some more traction & he started hauling me back bit by bit & I was getting the feeling my luck was running fine every time the front tucked on T1.
I got taken a bit off the track by a madman Grifith on the hubcentre 100 when he passed me & promptly crashed & I think that's when Dave got close enough to pass. We only had a couple of laps to go but I figured there was no point battling for a nowhere position. Little did I know I'd been in 2nd place for a good deal of the race.
But the funny part of the story is when I came back to the pits someone said Gee Dave, - your bleeding! Eh? Sure enough dripping out of my leathers. Sheet!, didn't even know I was hurt! Took the leathers off which now weighed about 40kg, remember it had been raining heavily & I'd done the F5 & F4 GP. My leathers were leaking a heap of red dye. Phew!
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Attachment 226000
Bucket with the test pipes he has made.
Attachment 226001
We could have used slip joints in the mid section to try and find the correct tuned length.
But the cones need to vary in length too and we wanted to use test chambers for finding the tuned length, that more accuratly reflected what the final design should be.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
So are you going to attempt to dyno them as straight, & if so - how will you mount them?
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Fingers crossed they can be dynoed straight, the exhaust points to the side a bit, so with any luck the pipes should fit.
Attachment 226093
Traditional slip joint and springs at the header and the rest just propped or tied up for the duration of the test.
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The rush is on for Taupo and not enough time to test Buckets chambers and make a new one for the bike so we have to get the best we can out of an old RS125 pipe which we think is too short.
Attachment 226222
The pipe has been split in the mid section and varying length inserts made for it. With the insert in place the wrap around on the outside is held tightly by hose clamps.
There is also a range of header extensions to go between the header and cylinder. So there are plenty of options for finding the right tuned length and adjusting it at the header or in the mid section, whatever works best.
This is a real Bucket as it has Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha as well as a few home made parts, in it.
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