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    I like this points system. It rewards riders for there positions. You can make points up fast if you have a crash and with our minimal amount of races at the nationals that is important.

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    Also agree with the points for Qualifying. We use the same amount of money to do Qualifying and it would give us 3 points opportunitys each round instead of 2.

    Its just as hard to beat "the man" on a stop watch as it is on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    But that's also why I reckon all finishers should get at least a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    Heh, everyone gets a trophy would be giving just for turning up or starting mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Heh, everyone gets a trophy would be giving just for turning up or starting mate.
    Last race of the series, both top points scorers are tied for the series win with no other racers even close to being in the hunt, both are battling hell for leather and both outbrake each other and run off track, last lap and they are running in 15th and 16th positions, they cross the line still in the same positions..................................who should win the series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    Last race of the series, both top points scorers are tied for the series win with no other racers even close to being in the hunt, both are battling hell for leather and both outbrake each other and run off track, last lap and they are running in 15th and 16th positions, they cross the line still in the same positions..................................who should win the series?
    Like that'll ever happen!!

    If the object of the race is to win then only the race winner should get points cos he's the only one that actually achieve the objective. Everyone went boohoo at that a long time ago cos it's not fair and consistency should be rewarded etc. So the object is to finish the race as high up as you can and score points. Everyone who finishes the race achieves that objective.

    I'm not saying it'll ever happen, but that's the way I look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil_cb125t View Post
    on bikes pole only gives you less than half a bike length.....0.7m most cases 2nd on the grid puts you a bit wider which is better for T1 anyway. Setting pole is pretty wicked, be nice to give a rider a real reward for it.
    Some Sidecar stuff years ago the pole sitter got the front row dead centre all to himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Some Sidecar stuff years ago the pole sitter got the front row dead centre all to himself
    Now that would make qualifying first really important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Like that'll ever happen!!

    If the object of the race is to win then only the race winner should get points cos he's the only one that actually achieve the objective. Everyone went boohoo at that a long time ago cos it's not fair and consistency should be rewarded etc. So the object is to finish the race as high up as you can and score points.

    I'm not saying it'll ever happen, but that's the way I look at it.
    Yep

    "Everyone who finishes the race achieves that objective" nope...... if your 45th, then you are slower than 44 people, the person that finishes 15th, 20th, 25th, 30th, 35th deserve more credit in the championship than 'you' finishing 45th in that race.

    The points are capped because you don't know how many entries the class is going to have.

    Maybe.... just maybe you could score points to 40th place BUT then you have to limit each class to only 40 entrants, that way you finish you get points. Winning would require the victor 80 points thou.....


    this point is moot 90% of the time as we never have enough competitors to run out of point gaining spots.
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    interestingly my wife is a school teacher, she told me once that before the classes cross country race she asks the kids " right who's going to beat the teacher today?'

    I stated to her that if I was a teacher I would ankle tap/spear tackle any kid that looked like he was going to pass me, I would not live with the shame.........2nd place is the first loser may that always stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    Also agree with the points for Qualifying. We use the same amount of money to do Qualifying and it would give us 3 points opportunitys each round instead of 2.

    Its just as hard to beat "the man" on a stop watch as it is on the track.
    I like the AMA system, qualify first and get a point, set the fastest lap in a race and get a point.

    The NZ grids however are set too short to give a meaningfull advantage, should be a full bike length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil_cb125t View Post
    this point is moot 90% of the time as we never have enough competitors to run out of point gaining spots.
    90%?? It's much, much closer to 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    90%?? It's much, much closer to 100%
    Increase numbers by dropping one practise and having three 10 or 12 lap races in Superbike and 600's, there are a few more locally that would jump in and fill up the grid if they thought they had a shot at avoiding being lapped, and it gives the guys a wider spread of point scoring oportunity to help take luck out of the equasion
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300weatherby View Post
    Increase numbers by dropping one practise and having three 10 or 12 lap races in Superbike and 600's, there are a few more locally that would jump in and fill up the grid if they thought they had a shot at avoiding being lapped, and it gives the guys a wider spread of point scoring oportunity to help take luck out of the equasion
    The Superbike riders and teams chose to have 2 races per meeting at the Nationals to lower costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    The Superbike riders and teams chose to have 2 races per meeting at the Nationals to lower costs.
    Maybe they'd like to change back, if someone asked......
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