US to open frontline combat roles to women

[007XX]

I can't imagine there will be a ton of candidates rushing to apply, but it will be interesting to see if it will last.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news/artic...140&ref=mobile


(Inserts obligatory GI Jane quote here)

[Kornholio]

Send em in bikinis armed with frying pans!!

[Milts]

About fucking time. I couldn't believe it when I found out how many nations exclude females from a wide range of military roles. Whatever happened to 'equality'? NZ and Israel are I think two of very nations which allow entirely equal military participation.

The big thing with the USA military is that women have for some time been serving with front line units 'unnofficially' (officially assigned to a nearby or support unit) because they were often the best choice for the combat role. But then they were excluded from promotion, because they did not have 'combat experience'.

The barrier of needing combat experience for higher ranked (non combat) roles meant that women were excluded from many senior or high paying jobs, as well as hundreds of thousands of other roles within the military. This is despite the fact that many are fighting and dying alongside their male colleagues.

"Many military women — who constitute 14% of the 1.4 million active members of the military — object to the policy because it blocks them from applying for some 238,000 jobs and excludes them from certain promotions"

http://ideas.time.com/2012/12/03/ban...#ixzz2Ipf0ayNC

[FJRider]

I can't imagine there will be a ton of candidates rushing to apply, but it will be interesting to see if it will last.

It may surprise you to find out how many will want to.

It matters little what sex the person shooting at you is.

[mashman]

I guess women will work more cheaply, so you can get 2 fighters for the price of 1

[Glowerss]

It may surprise you to find out how many will want to.

It matters little what sex the person shooting at you is.

Matters a great deal when it comes time to drag your wounded 150+ KG squad member away from the fighting.

I have no problem with equality in any walk of life, so long as it's actual equality. Selective equality is just sexism in favor of.

Women can and should serve in combat roles, so long as they pass the exact same requirements as men.

Currently, not so.

There was an article not too long ago about women trying to get into combat roles. Women Personal training scores are weighted HEAVILY in their favour. Going from memory, in order to score high on their PT, men have to do something like 60+ Pullups. It's like, 10 for women.

Same thing with running. Men need to do 1.6 kilometres in 11 minutes vs womens 20.

I wouldn't want to be in combat with somebody who was physically much weaker or has much less stamina then I. If your life is relying on the person next to you, you'd really want them to be as strong and fit as possible.

You wouldn't feel all that secure knowing that some people in your squad got through doing significantly less simply because they were female.

[FJRider]

I guess women will work more cheaply, so you can get 2 fighters for the price of 1

Better work stories ...

[bosslady]

I.don't understand? surely it's not that dangerous to cook some bacon and eggs

[FJRider]

Matters a great deal when it comes time to drag your wounded 150+ KG squad member away from the fighting.

Fuck the fat guy ... I probably weigh less than the chick does.

You wouldn't feel all that secure knowing that some people in your squad got through doing significantly less simply because they were female.

I served a number of years in the Army. Some males I wasn't happy about. (that's another story) EVERYBODY pulled their weight. You couldn't last long if you didn't.

A few Exercises I was involved in that included women ... they were just as fit as I. (if not fitter) And well capable of actually being IN combat roles. The Isralies proved they can.

[Brett]

I'm all for giving women the chance...but in reality, wouldn't expect many to make it through to the elite tiers of military combat oriented units (SEALS, Rangers, Delta etc.) The rigours of the selection phases are hard enough for males, will be few females who a) give it a go and b) have what it takes to pass. There will be some gutsy, extremely conditioned and mentally tough women who will crack it though.

[Kornholio]

I.don't understand? surely it's not that dangerous to cook some bacon and eggs

It will be when the eggs aren't over easy....

[FJRider]

It will be when the eggs aren't over easy....

And/or .... the toast is burnt ...

[bosslady]

It will be when the eggs aren't over easy....

good point. well that rules me out, I'm not a very good cook, guess my dream of joining the elite cooking forces is over...











oh wait you were talking about the army

[Kornholio]

And/or .... the toast is burnt ...

...............

[ducatilover]

I.don't understand? surely it's not that dangerous to cook some bacon and eggs

Soooooo... good in the kitchen are we?