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    shed a tear or three I did... I give him weeks, max a few months, you can see it in his eyes. I've seen that twice in the past 1.5 years. Sad.
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    I probably shouldn’t comment on this as I really don’t like Paul Holmes one little bit and never has since he cynically decided to crucify Dennis Conner to establish his own reputation. It just grated something deep in me and I despised him for it. I’m also always very very cautions when media creatures are awarded ‘honors’… So I can’t exactly comment on his end without some significant prejudices. But Mr Holmes couldn't resist commenting on his own situation so perhaps its OK if I do?

    Balanced against my personal dislike – people I know and respect in the broadcasting industry have almost without fail described him as being very professional to deal with. In some cases – knowing the people making the comments - that counts for a lot. However its usually attached with the rider that he was a bit too keen on attracting personal wealth for some with a more public service background.

    So like any of us – hes a mixed assortment of good and bad.

    The irony of his current situation is that over the years he has met many many people in the last stage of their life and reported on it. Yet his observations have not provided him with an insight on dying well himself. Yes – he looks more than a bit scared and possibly slightly peeved to find that his pithy observations had not given him the actual character to act out his last scene. It’s a shame but more than that it’s a opportunity that Paul Holmes himself would have found irresistible had he been sitting outside and looking in on it. I think hes a bit annoyed about that he has found he can’t actually control or manage this situation into some cute sound bites. If not exactly that – then you get the feeling the whole thing isn’t going as well as he would have liked and for once there's not a damn thing he can do about it.

    However – as motorcyclist there is a warning here for us as well. We all know the risk we take when we ride and that the more aggressively we ride the more aggressive the odds become. There is often this heroic 'blaze of glory' death image associated with this bravado but the reality is that its not usually like that. There is generally a lot more blood, screaming, humiliation and crying for your mother than people realize. Motorcycle deaths are not dignified ones and we should all guard against self agrandisation..

    Still – pettiness from folks like me won’t matter in the end. Paul Holmes changed broadcasting in NZ and made a fortune doing it. Its more of a legacy than most people achieve.

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    I thought his comment(s) about God were interesting. It reminded me about my Grandad. He wasn't a believer, in God, or religious at all, quite the opposite (but always respectful of other peoples beliefs). But I remember him saying to me in the hospital, riddled with cancer, knowing he only had a couple of weeks to live, that if it turned out that there was a God, that he thought he'd done right by everyone, he'd lived a good life and had basically been the best person that he could be. I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.
    if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?
    Huh? What's THAT?















    p.s. please, no offers to show me, thanks haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?
    I'm not sure God is responsible for orgasms. I think its the work of the other bloke and all the Priests I've met are very keen on you not having many of them and always get into trouble for having them themselves.

    But yes - faced with the end we all seem to ask if that is all there is to it? The answer being 'pretty much'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Huh? What's THAT?






    p.s. please, no offers to show me, thanks haha



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    I probably shouldn’t comment on this as I really don’t like Paul Holmes one little bit and never has since he cynically decided to crucify Dennis Conner to establish his own reputation. It just grated something deep in me and I despised him for it. I’m also always very very cautions when media creatures are awarded ‘honors’… So I can’t exactly comment on his end without some significant prejudices. But Mr Holmes couldn't resist commenting on his own situation so perhaps its OK if I do?

    Balanced against my personal dislike – people I know and respect in the broadcasting industry have almost without fail described him as being very professional to deal with. In some cases – knowing the people making the comments - that counts for a lot. However its usually attached with the rider that he was a bit too keen on attracting personal wealth for some with a more public service background.

    So like any of us – hes a mixed assortment of good and bad.

    The irony of his current situation is that over the years he has met many many people in the last stage of their life and reported on it. Yet his observations have not provided him with an insight on dying well himself. Yes – he looks more than a bit scared and possibly slightly peeved to find that his pithy observations had not given him the actual character to act out his last scene. It’s a shame but more than that it’s a opportunity that Paul Holmes himself would have found irresistible had he been sitting outside and looking in on it. I think hes a bit annoyed about that he has found he can’t actually control or manage this situation into some cute sound bites. If not exactly that – then you get the feeling the whole thing isn’t going as well as he would have liked and for once there's not a damn thing he can do about it.

    However – as motorcyclist there is a warning here for us as well. We all know the risk we take when we ride and that the more aggressively we ride the more aggressive the odds become. There is often this heroic 'blaze of glory' death image associated with this bravado but the reality is that its not usually like that. There is generally a lot more blood, screaming, humiliation and crying for your mother than people realize. Motorcycle deaths are not dignified ones and we should all guard against self agrandisation..

    Still – pettiness from folks like me won’t matter in the end. Paul Holmes changed broadcasting in NZ and made a fortune doing it. Its more of a legacy than most people achieve.
    Well written post although I'm quite happy with the Connor incident, the guy was in dire need of a taking down.

    Holmes may have changed broadcasting and good on him, but personally, his particular style irritated the hell out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    No wonder you got a motorbike ...
    Hahhaa, very good!
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    My heart goes out to him, I did shed a tear or two

    AND

    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?
    I'm a believer!!

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    I am an athiest when it comes to the big O.
    More of a , oh fuck oh fuck ohhh fuuck, kinda guy myself. Not a god in sight.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    I am an athiest when it comes to the big O.
    More of a , oh fuck oh fuck ohhh fuuck, kinda guy myself. Not a god in sight.
    Not even a love god?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Not even a love god?
    Not even a love god. More like a love monster.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Good Lord...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    ...... I remember him saying to me in the hospital, riddled with cancer, knowing he only had a couple of weeks to live, that if it turned out that there was a God, that he thought he'd done right by everyone, he'd lived a good life and had basically been the best person that he could be. I'm not a believer either but maybe when I'm near my death bed I'll start to wonder more too.
    At the risk of getting this thread biffed into RR, it's not actually about being the best kind of person you can be and "doing right by everyone". However I'll refrain from further comment on this line...

    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    if you don't beleive in God then who do call out to when you're having an orgasm?
    You've watched too many pornos

    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Not even a love god. More like a love monster.
    Love Guru???
    I lahk to moove eet moove eet...

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