Why work? A couple from the UK asks

[caseye]

Hell no, I'd like to hear what their parents REALLY think of their dole bludging spawn!
Lazy good for nothing mongrels who are now in the process of raising more of the same with that attitude. You know, the, the govt owes us because we're poor and down trodden.
In almost every so called civilised country you will find pensioners who receive very little and immigrant dole bludgers creaming 3 or 4 times that while not working and raising their broods thanks to the country's they are in lax attitudes to immigrants and dole bludgers.
No work aye? road gangs, picks and shovels award wages paid each week, as long as you go to work and work, same for any other job where man power can do the same job as mechanisation.
I've been down and out twice in the past 18 months, walked the streets reading meters for nearly a year( minimum wage), finally snapped a better job, pay increased dramatically, as did responsibilities, resigned from that one to go and do something completely different.
Didn't make it, broke me leg ( No not on me motorcycle, much less glamorous and mundane), have fought the dreaded ACC for nearly 9 months, Beat the barstards, starting me new job soon.

[Dangsta]

You realise the story is bullshit eh? If its in The Sun, there's a good chance it's made up.

[mashman]

Well they wouldn't be unemployed there that's for fucking sure.

Of course not. They don't have unemployed people in Beijing

Sadly, that doesn't make me feel any better.

However 'cos this is KB, someone will probably come on eventually and say how horrible we all are about the "poor" non working couple which should be a laugh.

Ahhhhh the politics of envy. Stop being horrible about the poor. It's horrible.

[scumdog]

However 'cos this is KB, someone will probably come on eventually and say how horrible we all are about the "poor" non working couple which should be a laugh.

Got no problem if somebody is poor and trying to improve themselves, I can sympathis .
e with that sort of person.
It's the lazy slack-jawed improvident mouthbreather that can knock up anything with a twat within 10 metres who is 'poor' by choice and has their hand out at every opportunity I loathe...

[Zedder]

You realise the story is bullshit eh? If its in The Sun, there's a good chance it's made up.

Well, the Daily Mail, Express and Telegraph ran it as well plus they were on ITV so maybe not...

[Zedder]

Of course not. They don't have unemployed people in Beijing



Ahhhhh the politics of envy. Stop being horrible about the poor. It's horrible.

Masho, might have bloody known.

[PrincessBandit]

Gina, flaunting fake tan and perfectly manicured nails, said: “I don’t see that we’re living off the taxpayers, we’re entitled to the money our parents paid all their lives.
“They’ve worked so hard since they left school and I’m sure they’d rather it went to us than see us struggle.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2JRnLxy7n

How sweet. I too would be interested to see what their parents thought about it (if they are, in fact, for real - and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are).

[Ocean1]

Of course not. They don't have unemployed people in Beijing

They don't. Go look for yourself.

More to the point, they don't have dole bludgers.

[Zedder]

Got no problem if somebody is poor and trying to improve themselves, I can sympathis .
e with that sort of person.
It's the lazy slack-jawed improvident mouthbreather that can knock up anything with a twat within 10 metres who is 'poor' by choice and has their hand out at every opportunity I loathe...

Ahh sorry there SD missed ya. Agree.

[mashman]

Masho, might have bloody known.

Perception is a bitch eh... or should that be reality ...

They don't. Go look for yourself.

More to the point, they don't have dole bludgers.

I'd love to but can't afford the fares.

Ahhhhhh, is that what you meant. They probably shoplift then.

[Ocean1]

I'd love to but can't afford the fares.

That's because you're a bone idle git.

They probably shoplift then.

Yeah, that'd be why all the market stalls are out in the open completely unprotected.

What they actually do, and I realise this is a totally alien concept for some, is work.

And the reason they do that is the only alternative is either starving or begging in the square, which is really only going to work if you've got no legs.

[mashman]

How sweet. I too would be interested to see what their parents thought about it (if they are, in fact, for real - and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are).

Maybe their parents are sympathetic to their position? As hard as that may be to take. I certainly wouldn't begrudge that sort of attitude from my kids. Why would I want them to struggle as I did? Why would I want them to face the pressures of inconsistent cash flow that I did? Why would I want to put their relationships under pressure because they've logically resigned themselves to the fact that they aren't going to earn anywhere near what they need to make ends meet with all of the pressure that goes with it? I wouldn't. Having said that, I will encourage my children to get the qualifications they need/want and to find a job that they would like to do. I've got a 21 year old Son back in the UK. He's in his last year of Uni and is already questioning what he's going to do for money. He has some ideas, he has my support, I hope his art degree serves him well in a world where such things are deemed useless. Fortunately I'll not be labeling him a bludger if he is unable to make ends meet and is unable to tick the boxes that gets him that job that others (more qualified, more experienced etc...) are competing for.

[mashman]

That's because you're a bone idle git.

And you didn't even mention my haircut.

Yeah, that'd be why all the market stalls are out in the open completely unprotected.

What they actually do, and I realise this is a totally alien concept for some, is work.

And the reason they do that is the only alternative is either starving or begging in the square, which is really only going to work if you've got no legs.

Ok... that's the way it happens.

[yachtie10]

“I don’t see that we’re living off the taxpayers, we’re entitled to the money our parents paid all their lives.

I remember hearing Sue Bradford say something similar in the CTU about 25 years ago

IIRC it was
"we are entitled to the dole as we will work some day"

Here I dont think they would get much anymore as they are admitting there not looking for work?

[007XX]

They are not completely stupid in the sense that they've done the maths, and yes, whyshould they take a more arduous path if they don't have to?

That's where the system is obviously failing. There must be rehabilitation into work schemes which ends the never ending hand feeding of people lke that.

Sometimes, you have to force people to be morally ethical about their choices.

Give, but put a freakin deadline on it, with either work or education towards work at the end of the benefit period.

Sorry if I'm being over simplistic here, but surely there has got to be some logic applied somewhere when you take money from some to hand it to others.